today. Most seem to recognize the senselessness of it all. So if the left "got it" long ago, and the right "gets it" now, who remains? Who are those 40+% still supporting the chimp's actions in Iraq? I'd like to see just what they are asking. I wonder how many folks are confused and mistakenly think they are being asked if they support the troops in Iraq...
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IRAQ: 12 Marines, 66 Iraqis Killed in Battles
The Las Vegas Sun ^ | April 06, 2004 at 18:16:01 PDT | HAMZA HENDAWI
Posted on 04/06/2004 6:22:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
NAJAF, Iraq (AP) -
Insurgents and rebellious Shiites mounted a string of attacks across Iraq's south and U.S. Marines launched a major assault on the turbulent city of Fallujah on Tuesday. Up to a dozen Marines, two more coalition soldiers and at least 66 Iraqis were reported killed.
Reports from the city of Ramadi, near Fallujah, said dozens of Iraqis attacked a Marine position near the governor's palace, a senior defense official said from Washington. "A significant number" of Marines were killed, and initial reports indicate it may be up to a dozen, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
U.S. authorities also launched a crackdown on radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr al-Sadr and his militia after a series of weekend uprisings in Baghdad and cities and towns to the south that took a heavy toll in both American and Iraqi lives. The fighting marks the first major outbreak of violence between the U.S.-led occupation force and the Shiites since Baghdad fell a year ago.
Two more coalition soldiers - an American in Baghdad and a Ukrainian in Kut - were killed in fighting. The deaths brought the three-day total to up to about 30 Americans and 136 Iraqis killed in the worst fighting since the war that toppled Saddam Hussein.
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1 posted on 04/06/2004 6:22:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As a useful point of reference, the range for annual murders in New York City over the past 13 years is from a Guiliani-led low of ~650 to a liberoid-led high of 2,262 in 1990.
2 posted on 04/06/2004 6:25:22 PM PDT by dodger
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
May flights of angels sing them to their rest.
3 posted on 04/06/2004 6:25:45 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
To: cajungirl
The Shiite 'Tet offensive' has begun, a bit prematurely I would say.
4 posted on 04/06/2004 6:27:51 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Please pray on this day, and every day, for our Patriot Armed Forces standing in harm's way around the world in defense of our liberty, and for the families awaiting their safe return.
5 posted on 04/06/2004 6:27:58 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (Become a monthly donor to Free Republic)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
12 more victims of neo-CON nonsense. Way to go CONS. When you going to get around to protect our own borders? Wanting to stupidly play world cop getting brave Americans killed distracting you from the real problems?6 posted on 04/06/2004 6:29:43 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the post, Ernest.
May God bless those Marines who paid the ultimate price for freedom.
And may God have mercy on their souls.
Semper Fi,
Kelly
7 posted on 04/06/2004 6:31:49 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi
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To: Greg Weston
Wanting to stupidly play world cop getting brave Americans killed distracting you from the real problems?
Those "real problems" being.....?
8 posted on 04/06/2004 6:33:18 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Greg Weston
Out of respect for those Marines who paid the ultimate price for freedom, I would appreciate it if you would not use this thread for a rant. Thank you.Semper Fi,
Kelly
9 posted on 04/06/2004 6:34:06 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi
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To: Greg Weston
I don't understand your post. I don't think I like it. Please explain yourself better.10 posted on 04/06/2004 6:35:55 PM PDT by conservaDave
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To: dodger
My nephew was seriously wounded today in Iraq there butt head. shove whatever your crap is up your butt.11 posted on 04/06/2004 6:35:55 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (G.W. Bush in 2004)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I pray for the families and at the same time I say PC wars have never been won and never will be won. Lets get back to the All is fair in war. Forget the love part!
12 posted on 04/06/2004 6:36:42 PM PDT by chachacha
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To: chachacha
I fear these numbers are MUCH higher.13 posted on 04/06/2004 6:38:33 PM PDT by gollymolly
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To: Joe Boucher
I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. Prayers for him.
14 posted on 04/06/2004 6:38:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: LibFreeUSA
The Shiite 'Tet offensive' has begun, a bit prematurely I would say.
Tet was in '68, years before America pulled out and the South was overrun. You can say it's premature in a few years if/when things pan out differently.
15 posted on 04/06/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: kellynla
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
-- George S. Patton
16 posted on 04/06/2004 6:39:27 PM PDT by Sledge
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To: Joe Boucher
Praying for your nephew. Please thank him for his service.
17 posted on 04/06/2004 6:39:49 PM PDT by red-dawg (proud member Dept. Homeland Security -- I OWN GUNS.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Amen. The war has just begun for many, They will need all the prayers we can send their way.
18 posted on 04/06/2004 6:39:55 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Dr. Frank fan
>>Those "real problems" being.....?<<
Letting people that are up to no good cross our borders. Letting the 9-11 hijackers just waltz right in. You know protecting the American homeland. Things like that.
19 posted on 04/06/2004 6:40:06 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
I thought this was about terrorist, Al Quida, and Weapons of mass destruction?
Now we are in the streets, going from town to town fighting Iraqi street gangs? It seems the goal here is becoming out of focus, blurred.
They are talking about this right now on the west coast blow torch station KFI. Many of the callers are asking the same damn thing.
And I agree with your statement. Something is wrong with this picture.20 posted on 04/06/2004 6:40:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Boucher
Prayers for your nephew Joe, as well as prayers for the rest of our wounded. God bless the brave souls who lost their lives.
21 posted on 04/06/2004 6:40:46 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: All
Two small bits of good news from articles I read today.
About the fighting in Sadr City yesterday:
"American troops managed to reach their wounded and began pulling them out. Military officials said they got unexpected help from some Iraqi civilians who offered their cars and, in one instance, a bus, to take wounded troops to safety."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-fg-sadr6apr06,1,1185757.story?coll=la-home-headlinesAbout Fallujah today:
"In Fallouja, local children waved at soldiers while playing soccer earlier in the day and residents appeared to be receptive to the Marines' calls for cooperation."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-040604iraq_lat,1,6366451.story?coll=la-home-headlinesI know this is pretty lame, with all the bad news today, but it gave me a slight pick-me-up amid all the gloom.
22 posted on 04/06/2004 6:40:48 PM PDT by saquin
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To: Joe Boucher
I will be praying for your nephew and all our great men.
23 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:03 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Personally, 1 Marine should cost no less than 20 Iraqi insurgent lives; (and I do not imply an arbitrary equivalency - 1 to 500 would be better). If the toll is 30 of our guys in the past few days - we need the exclamation point of 500+ lives of the anti-democracy forces strewn on the battlefield.
U.S. Command - open up the rules of engagement to fire at will!
24 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:17 PM PDT by HardStarboard ( Wesley...gone. Hillary......not gone enough!)
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To: Joe Boucher
I hope your nephew is ok. I thank him and your family for his service.
25 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:19 PM PDT by conservaDave
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To: Sledge
Seems to me we can do both,,thank God we had them and mourn them at the same time.
26 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:31 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: Joe Boucher
Sorry about your nephew. We will keep him in our prayers.
27 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:37 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
God Bless them all!
I can't help but wonder if the Marines couldn't have come up with more fire power and maybe reduced their casualties. Questions in my mind as to whether the enemy was able to "Close?" Was there more of a surprise factor than we know? With all the "Star Light" devices available to the troops, plus rapid fire area weapons, I would think the enemy would have had to pay a much bigger price?
Shades of Vietnam when NVA sappers would penetrate the various compounds, on their bellies, cutting the wire, etc.
28 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:38 PM PDT by Joee
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To: gollymolly
Sadly I feel the same. Where are the tanks, the planes, the smart bombs, the missles, the Shock And Awe?
29 posted on 04/06/2004 6:41:55 PM PDT by chachacha
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To: Greg Weston
Take the fight to the enemy. The enemy is over there. Yea, protect our borders, but don't lose sight of the bigger picture.
And the killing of those 12 Marines is going to piss the Marines off royally. I'd hate to be on the other side.
30 posted on 04/06/2004 6:42:28 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: dodger; Ragtime Cowgirl; Radix; HiJinx; Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; Da Jerdge; MJY1288; xzins; ...
Perhaps an even better reference point is this - - -
The Dieppe Raid that lasted only one day, cost 907 dead among the allied commandos.
A total of 9,758 Allied soldiers died in the D-Day invasion of Nazi-held Europe during World War II that lasted from 6 - 25 June 1944 or nearly as many each of the 19 days as have been killed in 13 months of action in Iraq.
31 posted on 04/06/2004 6:43:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Greg Weston
Well Greg, dontcha think we can do both. If you think closing the borders is going to solve this problem of terrorist states I do believe you are naive. Sure it would help keeping them out of here. But planes fly into this country, missles can reach our country, we have embassies all over the world, we depend on the rest of the world for certain things. We cannot live like hermits, just us and the resst of the world be damned. It has a way of getting in in one way or the other. I hate to see fine young men die, but they do in war and it doesn't help to piss and moan that things aren't being done in one's particular way.
32 posted on 04/06/2004 6:43:58 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: Joe Boucher
Prayers are being sent up for your nephew right this minute.
33 posted on 04/06/2004 6:46:10 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Expecting others to pay for your enjoyment of FreeRepublic is socialism: Donate now!)
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To: Greg Weston
Don't be so childishly impatient and nearsighted. The strategy afoot is brilliant. Radical Muslims from all over the middle east and, indeed, the world are streaming into Iraq for the fight that's taking place right now. How convenient! We don't have to chase them - they're coming to us. And running right into the teeth of the fiercest, most lethal military machine in human history - the United States Marines!
34 posted on 04/06/2004 6:46:27 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Greg Weston
Are we over there to free the Iraqis? To make them happy? They hate our form of government. They hate us. What are we doing? I could care less if Iraqis are free, or if they like democracy, or if they hate us.
There are a billion of them. We gunna kill them all?
And while we are killing all these fanatics, we leave our borders wide open?
Scary.....35 posted on 04/06/2004 6:46:47 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am sure the good Muslims will hold their Fire for Good Friday services, and give us a peaceful Christian holyday.....*sigh*
we give them their stinking Ramadan and they increase the killing during our Holy Week....
I don't think civilized people can win if we don't act uncivilized at times....
36 posted on 04/06/2004 6:47:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Joe Hadenuf
So Joe, your focus is blurred. Well, we are trying to set up a peaceful democratic government in a critical part of the world, a place where terrorists are congregating to break our will. Better to fight them there than here. And better to drain that swamp now. People are going to die. But your focus need not be blurred, unless of course you want to wave that flag as a way of undermining our effort.
37 posted on 04/06/2004 6:47:18 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
>>Something is wrong with this picture.<<
I know. I wonder how many terrorists may have slipped into this country while our brave guys street fight with scumbags in Iraq. I thought we were going to be welcomed in Iraq as liberators? The neo-CONs still trying to sell this BS??38 posted on 04/06/2004 6:47:44 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Cedric
And running right into the teeth of the fiercest, most lethal military machine in human history - the United States Marines!
And in the end, what do we win? What's the prize? Are they going to love us?39 posted on 04/06/2004 6:48:09 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Sledge
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
George S. Patton
Well Gen. Patton had his way of dealing with death and I have mine...
And I see nothing foolish or wrong in mourning the loss of a loved one while celebrating their life.
40 posted on 04/06/2004 6:48:58 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The libruls in the media, on hearing the news of the 12 dead marines, became wobbly in the knees today and insisted that we send in more troops, as if libruls know anything about fighting wars. And since when did libruls really care about our military? I thought libruls actually despise our military. Libruls hate the military, and, at the same time, they want to play generals. As usual, the libruls want to play both sides of an argument, all in an attempt to make our Prez look bad. That seems to be the libruls' sole mission in life: making our Prez look bad. Libruls are pathetic creatures.
41 posted on 04/06/2004 6:49:52 PM PDT by Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg (Andrea Mitchell is a man.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I think you are operating on a misunderstanding. All the ppolls out of Iraq support us, they do not want us to cut and run, they identify with a non theocracy as a government. They are working, building and for the most part doing so in peace. Some renegades, some thugs from all over the middle east , like lemmings, are going there to stop it. We are going to kill them. Unless of course we lose our nerve. And if we do, God help us.
42 posted on 04/06/2004 6:49:58 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: Greg Weston
Please difine neo-Con.
43 posted on 04/06/2004 6:50:39 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Joe Boucher
"My nephew was seriously wounded today in Iraq..."
I will remember your nephew in my prayers.
Semper Fi,
Kelly
44 posted on 04/06/2004 6:51:09 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Why are you here? You are full of misinformation. You do nothing but piss and moan. You do not engage in a thoughtful discussion. You seem to have an agenda.
45 posted on 04/06/2004 6:51:50 PM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I don't want them to love us. I want them to fear us.
46 posted on 04/06/2004 6:51:58 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Greg Weston
Please difine neo-Con
difine = define
47 posted on 04/06/2004 6:52:08 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Greg Weston
The neo-CONs still trying to sell this BS??
Your piddly little BS got Clinton elected in the first place and led to 9/11.
Who is a greater threat to the country in your mind, the "neo-cons" or the liberal democrats.
Oh yeah and like John Kerry is going to build your wall.
48 posted on 04/06/2004 6:52:15 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Joe Boucher
Prayers for your nephew.
49 posted on 04/06/2004 6:52:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dane
Some people love to fret and moan and complain about those in charge. They are empty, filled with cynicism but mostly angry at any form of authority but their own petty concerns.