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carols Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:26 PM
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We're being Poindexterized in Florida!!!
Police in Florida are creating a new counterterrorism database designed to give law enforcement agencies around the country a powerful new tool to analyze billions of records about both criminals and ordinary Americans.

Organizers said the system, dubbed Matrix, enables investigators to find patterns and links among people and events faster than ever before, combining police records with commercially available collections of personal information about most American adults. It would let authorities, for instance, instantly find the name and address of every brown-haired owner of a red Ford pickup truck in a 20-mile radius of a suspicious event.

The state-level program, aided by federal funding, is poised to expand across the nation at a time when Congress has been sharply critical of similar data-driven systems on the federal level, such as a Pentagon plan for global surveillance and an aviation passenger-screening system.

Florida police create database to battle terror

Carol
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:35 PM
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1. Yipes! That's unsettling...
Thank god the govt will still manage to be incompetent, even with all this data at their everlovin' fingertips. Jeez o pete.
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carols Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:40 PM
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2. I suppose they'll put THAT in a MicroSoft Access database too
I thank God every day that most government technology professionals can't tell their CD players from a cup holder, but still it really, really sucks to live in Florida.
Carol
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:45 PM
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3. When I saw that story...
...I wanted to puke from here to Jeb's front doorstep.

Which reminds me, THANKS TO ALL THE ASSHOLES WHO VOTED AGAINST JANET RENO IN THE PRIMARY!

Lu Cifer
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carols Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:50 PM
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4. Puke-in at Jeb's house?
Seems appropriate...it's one form of protest I haven't tried yet! Seriously, we need to make some noise about this - organize a protest around it or something. I can't believe they are getting federal dollars for this, while our kids are getting shafted in our schools and our elderly get screwed out of their health benefits...
Carol
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:13 PM
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5. I don't think it's the same issue
This is only for investigating actual crimes, while the TIA thing was to try to divine suspicious plots from patterns of otherwise completely innocuous behavior.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:56 PM
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7. Sounds almost the same, maybe not as extreme.
SNIP...."A senior official overseeing the project acknowledged it could be intrusive and pledged to use it with restraint. "It's scary. It could be abused. I mean, I can call up everything about you, your pictures and pictures of your neighbors," said Phil Ramer, special agent in charge of statewide intelligence....."

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 11:02 PM
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8. There is already a computer system for criminal checks...
... known as the NCIC system run by the Feds, to which all law enforcement agencies have access. This one combines personal info databases with criminal info. Very suspect, indeed, especially since there's not much vetting of information in personal info databases.

Cheers.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:34 PM
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6. Do a search on Hank Asher, DBT, drug ring for a surprise.
He was the one who got together the Florida voting purge list for DBT. Then DBT sort of booted him, and he is with Seisent. Never charged but also suspected of links to a Bahamian drug ring.

Lovely place, Florida. We have the same folks purging voters and making terrorist databases.

:shrug:

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