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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:28 PM
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Arnold S. can't run for president
Even if somehow he wins the governor's race, he can never run for president because he is foreign born.
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:34 PM
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1. And he better not become governor!
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:37 PM
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2. not so fast lookie here
They are working on it......


http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/07-03/07-12-03/a01lo010.htm

Hatch latest to back presidency amendment
By JOAO FERREIRA, Standard-Times staff writer

NEW BEDFORD -- U.S. Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, introduced a proposed constitutional amendment this week that would allow foreign-born citizens to become president. For one New Bedford resident, this is a victory.
A bipartisan group of House legislators introduced a similar amendment about a month ago.
"This is a major, major, historical step," said Raimundo Delgado, a New Bedford resident who has spent 25 years fighting for such an amendment. "Now we have another front that we were looking for in the Senate side. This guy is the leader of the Republicans. He has been in the Senate for 27 years. He is a very prominent leader."
Sen. Hatch made a strong statement in favor of the proposed amendment on the Senate floor Thursday.
"This restriction has become an anachronism that is decidedly un-American," Sen. Hatch said. "Consistent with our democratic form of government, our citizens should have every opportunity to choose their leaders free of unreasonable limitations."
Sen. Hatch argued that the decision to include the natural-born citizen requirement in the Constitution was driven largely by the concern that a European monarch, such as King George III's second son, the Duke of York, might be imported to rule the United States.
"The purpose of the native-born citizen requirement has long passed," he said.
Sen. Hatch also gave examples of prominent immigrants, such as former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and Madeline Albright, who cannot run for president under the Constitution. </snip>
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:41 PM
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4. its so obvious why they are doing this
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:01 PM
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7. Oh yea
I remembered when Hatch was yapping about this on the Senate floor I was watching that day and that's why I posted the link.
My antena went up when I heard that snake in the grass start up with supporting this amendment. The pukes do nothing for the people it's for them and their party!

Notice the pukes weren't never for this when they didn't have 'opportunity' they've been CONtemplating a AS run. They don't fool me I've been paying attention to these bozos for a while. Think 'Redux Ragun' that's what they are going for their fantasy of returning to the days of their boy Raygun.

It's also the same with the rules of the judicial committee nominations (nuclear) they want to change the rules now that they are in Control. Where as before if the Dems. tried to change the rules they'd be crowing to high heaven about 'the rule of law'.
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:26 PM
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12. Maybe so, but it goes both ways.
Two words : Jennifer Granholm.

If such an amendment were ratified she could be a formidable candidate.
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Trad Bass Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:29 PM
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13. Granholm for Prez or Veep- Heck Ya!
She's got my vote.

Trad
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:52 PM
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5. If Hatch
is so worried about anachronistic laws maybe he should try to get rid of the Electoral College.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:35 PM
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14. now that will never happen
WHY? pray-tale.... because the majority- that's us- will never vote for a repuke in a presidental election. Gore won the popular vote and if it weren't for the electoral college he would be sitting in the oval office. Of course he should be sitting there now would be if it weren't for the supreme court 5 treasonists.

One man/woman one vote the pukes would lose big time! Course, if Bush had lost the electoral and won the popular they had a back up plan to fight it.....you see the pukes are win at all costs. That's why they are fascists and we must stomp them out. It amazes me the very ones 'pukes' that cried the loudest about fascism have become what they feared and what they use 'fear' on the people to control them.

http://www.pigsandfishes.org/2000elect.html
Sources for Electoral College:
Electoral College
I think the Electoral College is an obsolete and anti-democratic relic that should be done away with. It won’t be, because that would require amending the US Constitution, which would require the votes of the state legislatures of states that benefit from the College, so this is purely an abstract argument. At some point I may expand on this, perhaps spawning off a separate page.

For now I’ll just point out that the Gore campaign never tried to turn any electors, and never challenged the validity of the Electoral College, despite columnists and supporters calling upon them to do so. The Bush campaign, on the other hand, did have plans to do just — with a talk-radio campaign and advertisements and help from the media — that if they happened to wind up with the popular vote but not the electoral vote. A Gore campaign aide said, before the election, that the Gore campaign had similar plans, but when the actual chips were down, Gore publicly stated that he would “not accept the support of any elector pledged to Governor Bush”.
“Bush Set to Fight an Electoral College Loss” by Michael Kramer of the New York Daily News
“College Try” by Gregg Easterbrook
“Text of Al Gore’s statement on the Florida Supreme Court’s ruling”, Associated Press
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course your right

If Hatch is so worried about anachronistic laws maybe he should try to get rid of the Electoral College

and I know your comment was tongue in cheek thing is the pukes don't play by the rules and they never will. They are all for changing them when it doesn't suit them.
They project a lot too if you see them accusing someone of doing something you best believe they are the very ones doing it....all you have to do is dig and sniff around a little and well...... there it is.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:18 PM
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10. The Constitution has worked for over 200 years...
and I am opposed to changing it now! It has some flaws but it is fundamentally sound!
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jplvr Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:40 PM
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3. I thought it was possible
I guess it's not though. I thought there was a clause allowing those that have been here a certain length of time the ability to run.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:53 PM
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6. Well, I'm sure the Republicans will sponsor an amendment.
Looking forward to President Murdoch and President Moon.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:19 PM
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11. Moon for President
He has supposedly made known that he is out to rule the world,,,make that control the world. President Moon, VP Murdoch. Good ol' Hatchet job. Round and round you go, who knows where you STOP.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:03 PM
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8. Huge puke fest on Faux....
Sean Hannity, Mann Coulter and Matt Drudge. Why do I do this to myself.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:17 PM
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9. FAUX
F.U FAUX!!!!


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prez_sux Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:06 PM
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15. ever see Demolition Man?
they say arnold was the pres, and they had to repeal that there rule.
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