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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:52 AM
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Dozens Dead in Crackdown
Coalition crackdown on Sunni, Shiite rebels leaves dozens dead

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Dozens of Iraqis and almost 20 coalition troops have been killed as US troops move against Sunni insurgents and crack down on Shiite rebels of firebrand cleric Moqtada Sadr, declared wanted for murder.

The US military said Tuesday that four Marines died in Al-Anbar province, a hotbed of insurgents west of Baghdad.

On Monday US troops kicked off Operation Vigilant Resolve in the province to hunt down the rebels who brutally murdered four US security contractors in the flashpoint town of Fallujah last week.

Another three US soldiers were killed in separate attacks since Monday in a Shiite district of Baghdad. The latest deaths raised to 19 the number of coalition troops killed since Sunday, including a Salvador soldier and the rest Americans.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&u=/afp/20040406/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_us&printer=1
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:54 AM
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1. Nothing to see Move along
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:57 AM
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2. Let see four "contractors" are killed
Now 10-20 US military will end up dead to get back at the Iraqis for the killings..... Only in Bush's World.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:07 AM
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6. Now 10-20 US military will end up dead
I pray your estimate is low for the sake of the 18/19 year old kids who are about to be shresdded---

but in reality I think your estimate is very, very low.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:00 AM
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3. OT: Welcome to DU, RoyGBiv
Here's hoping you enjoy the spectrum of discourse here!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:04 AM
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4. Yes, it really is a "rainbow coalition" here
:evilgrin:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:06 AM
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5. Thanks
Thanks for the welcome.

It is quite colorful around here. ;-)
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:09 AM
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9. Welocme RoyGBiv
Never a dull moment here :-)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:08 AM
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7. this is the way bushco likes it
chaos, murder, mayhem, uprisings.
i mean that's all they get -- so that must be what they're after.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:08 AM
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8. At least 60 Iraqis Dead
CNN just reported at least 60 Iraqis are dead in the clashes at Sadr City.

BTW, is it just me, or is the media going to great lengths to refer to it as Sadr City in a seeming attempt to take the focus away of violence in Baghdad, supposedly a place that was calm?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:40 AM
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10. We got a new slogan out of it.."Operation Vigilant Resolve"...Isn't that
precious?...:puke:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:54 AM
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11. BBC: US Shelling Fallujah
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3603097.stm

Troops have sealed off the town - but witnesses speak of shelling and blasts and the use of helicopter gunships.

How close do you have to be to 'shell' accurately (ie aiming at a specific building)? Is this guaranteed to kill innocent civlians?
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:37 AM
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22. It can depend on what is being used. Artillery can be several miles, tank
can be in close like to hit a building or a mosque?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:02 AM
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12. Is the Civil War that we have been warned might happen?
I am so afraid it is and just feel so bad for these beleaguered people. Bush*, Cheney and Wolfowitz have so much to answer for.:-(
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:21 AM
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13. This isn't civil war.
These aren't Iraqis fighting Iraqis, this is Iraqis fighting the US occupation forces. Everyone keeps talking about the "civil war" that's coming, but what I see is (at least right now) Iraqis joining together to kick the foriegners out.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:26 AM
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14. By a stretch,you might call it civil war
because the Iraqis we appointed to lead the country are targets too.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:38 AM
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15. Another example of "Bush, the Uniter"
... two formerly hostile groups of Iraqi's are now banding together to annihilate the occupation forces. Lovely.

:scared:

:hippie:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:33 AM
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21. Good point. This was mentioned on the news just today.
Only Bush*, the divider in this country, could get the Sunnis and the Shi'a, traditional enemies, to unite to expel the foreign invaders who are currently occupying their country.:grr:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:22 AM
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19. I was thinking about this while watching the news today
If someone invaded this country, wouldn't Americans fight against them? I just don't see the reasons that Rumsfeld, Bush* and Bremer don't get it. I listened to Rumsfeld's rambling statements on what is happening, just tonight. He really is a very poor speaker. We invaded Iraq and they don't want us there. What else is there to figure out?:shrug:
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 06:45 AM
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25. No, They would sell their souls to the invaders
Just as they have sold their souls to the Military-Industrial complex.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:11 AM
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26. But I thought that they were the great Imperialists
who feel that we must reconfigure the Middle East and follow their neocon agenda, even if we divide the nation and alienate the entire world community.:shrug:
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:39 AM
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16. I can't help but see
many parallels between what we are doing in Fallujah and the Israeli Palestinian conflict. The cycle of violence will not stop with this action to pacify Fallujah. I don't understand why our highly intelligent leaders think the outcome of this action will be any different than the I/P situation. I am outraged by this whole war and there is no end in sight. The stupidity of the Bush admin boggles the mind. They must be delusional that is the only explanation that makes any sense. I am very thankful for the people here at DU for at least I am not alone.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:28 AM
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20. I am grateful for the sensible voices here, as well
The situation continues to escalate, dozens of Americans and Iraqis continue to die, and the administration continues to spin. I also see a parallel between this and the I/P conflict. They both seem insurmountable. The main differences, as I see it, is that we didn't start I/P, and the current administration has pretty much ignored it. But someone has got to sit up and pay attention to both, since people are dying and these are the two most dire and dangerous conflicts in today's world.;(
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:53 AM
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17. It wasn't rebels that dismembered the corpses...
it was common townsfolk. The murders were no more "brutal" than any other in this war. It was what the average person of Fallujah saw fit to do with the bodies that provoked the furor.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:13 AM
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18. Bremer pointed out
Something like groups that think power comes from the "barrel of a gun". So we obviosly have to kill them to prove the error of their ways.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 06:40 AM
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24. Viceroy Bremer


Needs lots of Guns to protect his sorry ass.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:13 AM
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23. Wanted for murder?
Is that like a major crime in Iraq?
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:23 AM
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27. DOZENS? Try HUNDREDS!
What an outrage! It is HUNDREDS DEAD, HUNDREDS INJURED, including our own soldiers. Far more than dozens.
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