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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:28 AM
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What US City would you attack next if you were Bush, and why?
The "terrorists" seem to like to attack liberal strongholds.

San Francisco? Get revenge on those "Marin County Hottubbers"?

NY Again? Looks like they already lost the Jewish support anyway...

LA? Get all those "foreigners" there?

Seattle? Get revenge for that grunge music crap?

Boston? Old Liberal stronghold?

Santa Fe? Noone will miss it anyway...

Miami? Make sure Florida is in the bag this time...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:34 AM
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1. "Jeb Bush Says People of San Francisco Are Endangered Species"
Gov. Jeb Bush joked during a Florida Cabinet meeting Wednesday that the people of San Francisco may be endangered and, "That's probably good news for the country."

The subject was environmental land and Bush was looking at a map showing locations with a lot of different wildlife.

"It looks like the people of San Francisco are an endangered species, which may not be a bad thing. That's probably good news for the country."

People in the room broke into laughter.

"Did I just say that out loud?" the governor asked.
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=5025&catcode=33

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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:37 AM
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3. Him and his brother share
that well developed sense of political humor.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:29 AM
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23. Pappy didn't do too bad with his John Walker Lindh comment, either
After an offhand remark describing American Taliban John Walker Lindh as "some misguided Marin County hot-tubber," Bush found himself the target of furious protests scolding him for smearing the reputation of the wealthy, liberal enclave north of San Francisco.

His sarcastic letter of apology didn't help much...

Text of letter from former President Bush to IJ Executive Editor Jackie
Kerwin
By George Bush

Dear Ms. Kerwin,

Call off the dogs please. I surrender. I apologize. I am chastened and will never use "hot tub"and "Marin County" in the same sentence again. Though you yourself in "Reader's Forum" recognized that others have used the "hot tub"analogy, I shouldn't have done it.

But what's this talk of Peacock Feathers? As Dana Carvey might say "Didn't say Peacock Feathers. Wouldn't be prudent."

I won't even try to explain my position except to say I was and remain so offended by John Walker Lindh that I hurt other's feelings. In the opinion of your outraged letter writers I condemned all of Marin County with a hottub reference. Obviously I struck a nerve.

Now your readers have attacked me on my granddaughters, on my residence, on abortion, on Enron, on my being a Texan and on my pronunciation of Marin. You name it, a lot of angst has surfaced, and it's all my fault. Though I only garnered 23 percent of the vote in Marin in 1992, I was your President and I should have known better. I apologize to those who supported me that were offended, and I also apologize to the unenlightened who did not support me.

I will now soak in my own hot tub and try to be more sensitive to the
feelings of others - not John Walker Lindh, though.

Sincerely,

George Bush



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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:36 AM
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26. Is that a real letter?
My god, that guy is a major league asshole...
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:46 AM
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10. San Francisco
It's in CA. It is a city that much of the rest of the country thinks is "alien" to their beliefs.

But the #1 reason is that Arnold will be the one to save the day, to project as a strong leader, to show compassion for those lost.

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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:58 AM
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33. Welcome Snoggera
And I happen to agree. I live here in the Bay Area and don't like to think about it... but that has been my guess...they want to make Arnold look like a REAL HERO, much as Gullianni did in NY on 9/11.

You understand our social reality is now being scripted, yes?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:34 AM
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2. Whether Bush is behind it or not it will be an American port city
Homeland security in regards to ports is severly underfunded. Getting worked up over airline security is almost pointless now. Any terrorist attempting a hijacking will literally get his head ripped off by fellow passengers.


However if a unregistered ship(laden with explosive) makes into a costal port where there is petroluem, chemicals, or liquified natural gas stored the death toll could be several times worse than 9/11.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:38 AM
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4. Maybe Baltimore?
close enough to put a good scare into DC?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:46 AM
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11. See the Texas City disaster of 1947
The morning of April 16, 1947 can still be remembered by many of the citizens of Texas City. This was a morning that many must have thought was the end of the world, and for some people it did become the end of their world. The day started as a bright, clear spring morning. A ship in the Texas City harbor bearing a cargo of ammonium nitrate fertilizer destined for war torn Europe, caught fire. The fire department was on the scene trying to put out the fire, and a crowd of people (many children) had gathered to watch the firefighters. The bright orange color that came out of the black smoke seemed to catch everyone's attention. The crowd must not have known that ammonium nitrate is highly explosive or they didn't know what was in the cargo hold of the ship. The standard plan for towing a dangerously burning ship from the harbor was not implemented until it was too late, and the tug boat didn't arrive in time to prevent what happened next. A little after 9:00 a.m. the Texas City Disaster, as it is often referred to, happened as the Grand Camp exploded. A great column of smoke shot up an estimated two thousand feet, followed in about ten seconds by another, and even more violent shockwave. Within moments of the second blast, the Monsanto Chemical Plant was in flames that resulted from broken lines and shattered containers. As entire buildings collapsed, trapping people inside, fires quickly spread to the refineries that made up the Texas City indusial complex.

http://www.ezl.com/~fireball/Disaster20.htm
http://www.local1259iaff.org/disaster.html





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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:49 PM
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42. Good choice!
I'd limit that further to an area where there are also offshore natural gas or petroleum platforms, or where there are chemical plants near the coast. Maybe along the Gulf Coast between Louisiana and Galveston?
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:39 AM
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5. go for a hotbed of conservative idealogy
that will keep his support, going how about Kansas city Missouri or somewhere in Tex-ass. I suggest the mid-west if Bush and co are reading this.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:40 AM
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6. LA or SF
Definately California this time. Either of these cities would be a good target because of their huge population and overwhelming support for Democrats. In LA, you might even take out some of those pesky celebrities that like to talk politics too.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:44 AM
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9. Yeah that's true,
the Hollywood Bunch has been at it again lately.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:43 AM
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7. Where does George Soros live?
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:47 AM
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12. Bedford NY.. wherever that is
www.forbes.com/finance/lists/54/2003/LIR.jhtml?passListId=54&passYear=2003&passListType=Person&uniqueId=L9II&datatype=Person lists that as where he lives.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:58 PM
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47. Bedford, NY in Westchester County
My sister lives there
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:44 AM
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8. NYC
Probably Greenwich Village or a heavily Jewish section of Brooklyn, like Brighton Beach, maybe Astoria. Possibly Harlem, in an attempt to kill Bill -- Clinton, that is.

Possible, but not probable: Miami, Orlando, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco.

However, DC is a difficult place to crack.

--bkl
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:48 AM
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13. Hate to say this, but . . .
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 12:54 AM by rwenos
Los Angeles is the obvious choice. By the way, I live in an LA suburb, about 10 miles from LAX. There are LOTS of Jewish people in LA. There are LOTS of middle American white people in LA too -- a target al Qaeda seems to relish.

There is a huge port, policed poorly, and (this is the one that haunts me) al Qaeda targeted LA once, at the Millenium, and the attack was foiled at the Canadian border. LAX is thus in the same category as the WTC after the 1993 attack -- a target al Qaeda didn't take out. Odds are they'll try again. Meanwhile, me and my family fly in and out of there regularly.

This whole piece of excrement is spinning out of control, while Nero Bush fiddles. And the coffins stream into Dover AFB, with no cameras to record the moment.

This is 1968 all over, mates.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:02 AM
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15. You have a point about LA...
cuz they failed the first time.

I still think it will be San Francisco. All those liberals, and gays too! Not to mention that persnickety mayor!

I love that city. My brother lives there.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:12 AM
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18. San Francisco . . .
. . . fits like old blue jeans, a white t-shirt and a leather jacket. Peets coffee on Chestnut Street, the fog rolling past the Mark Hopkins mansion on Nob Hill. Fettucine al carbonara at Enrico's on Broadway, followed by cappucino in a nameless Italian coffee bar on Washington Square. Jogging on the Marina Green, drinking in Perry's on Union Street, hot corned beef sandwiches at Tommy's on Van Ness. Singapore Slings at the Great American Music Hall on O'Farrell.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:08 AM
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16. I disagree
This is worse than 1968. There is no way Johnson or Nixon could have gotten away with the blatant crap Bush has been feeding the country. They both had to be far more subtle in their misdeeds. And the potential for things going really bad is even greater. We'll be living with this for a long, long time.

Gee, cheerful sort, aren't I?
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:15 AM
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19. You Got the Drift
and I don't think you're being morose. Just realistic.

The reason I thought 1968 was mainly the feeling (which I dimly remember, I was only 15 years old) right after the Tet Offensive. How did they DO this? Why isn't our side WINNING? Why do they HATE us? Why are they KILLING OUR CHILDREN?

That's the part that reminds me of 1968. The feeling of a ferris wheel coming off its axle.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:27 AM
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22. Yes ... good analogy
The wheels are coming off the cart. I was 12, but the tension of those years was inescapable ... even kids had to notice it. We've seen this kind of thing before, and we know what happens next, at least in broad, general terms.

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:09 AM
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17. Al Qaeda doesnt have nuclear weapons.
I am curious to know though, what, if any, other countries could truly launch an attack from over seas.

Seems to me we are the ones with all the nuclear weapons. I know others have nuclear weapons, but having them and being able to launch and fire them on cities is a whole different ball game.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:55 AM
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14. I would probably do Chicago.
If they keep doing New York the rest of the country doesn't get the full effect. Chicago is the biggest city in the Mid-West, hugely populated and gives off more of a "we can get you anywhere" feel than New York. Or maybe scale it down a bit and take out a small town in Idaho or something. That would get the rural people up in arms too, right now they aren't all that scared because big cities are the targets. Maybe more than one small town in the same day for maximum scare effect. The possibilities are endless.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:16 AM
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20. Crawford, TX
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Valkyrie55 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:17 AM
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21. Dallas, Texas
That way it's a short trip to go over and visit the damage and be back to the ranch in Crawford in no time.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:30 AM
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24. True, he probably would even miss "The Jeffersons"
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:40 AM
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27. Austin, TX...
...it's a "liberal stronghold" in the middle of Texas, and far enough inland that it'd frighten those in the "fly-over" states. The election would be cancelled, and well, it'd all pretty much suck from there on out.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:36 AM
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25. Seattle
It was the flashpoint of the anti-globalization movement (WTO) It is a hugely liberal city. Not only that, it has Microsoft and numerous military installations all around the area.


John
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:56 PM
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44. Plus, it would scare the shit out of people
If a city like Seattle, sort of out of the way up there in the Pac Northwest, were to be the target of a "terrorist attack" people would start to think that ANY city could be attacked, including theirs! So extra points for fear.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:52 AM
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28. Boston in the summer
during the Democratic Convention. Then blame it on North Korea and Invade Iran.

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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:24 AM
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29. Chicago
Nice Midwest target with a large population, tall buildings and a major financial center. Next best thing to hitting NYC again.

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:31 AM
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30. my FIRST thought on
9/11, watching the 2nd plane fly N2 the WTC was,'OMG, is the Golden Gate being attacked?' I was terrified it would B.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:48 AM
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31. Hmmm...and I was just mulling over the idea of moving to SF.
Between the big red target painted over it and the earthquakes, I think I'll take a pass.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:11 PM
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35. If the Bay Area goes up in a nuclear cloud
KNOW THAT I AM GONE!

:nuke:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:58 AM
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32. Arlington, VA?
I'd hardly call the Pentagon a liberal stronghold. A stronghold, yes. But not a liberal one.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:54 PM
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43. Yes, but
Remember that the original target was the Capitol, not the Pentagon -- and DC is loaded with Dems.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:02 AM
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34. PORTLAND OR or as The Bush family call it, "Little Beirut"
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:06 AM by mouse7
The Bush family HATES Portland. Poppy Bush called Portland "little Beirut" after a massive protest against him when he was President.

Portland HATES the Bushes, too. The streets erupt every time any of them come to town.

There's almost 2 full decades of shared hate between this town and the Bushes.

Portland is inland, but is a huge shipping port via the Columbia River. Deep water, lots of traffic.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:13 PM
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36. The Busheviks will LIHOP/MIHOP Sanf Francisco next
The only thing a Bushevik Monster hates worse than a Free Serf and an Uppity Negro are Homosexuals.

San Franciscans look out. Both the Busheviks and their friends in al-Qaeda hate you for pretty similar reasons.

I wouldn't want to be in San Francisco between now and November. Not at all.
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wasichu Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:18 PM
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37. New Orleans
on Flag Day.
The Spain terrorists (i.e. the CIA) said the next attack was 90% complete, which makes it around mid june.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:23 PM
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38. I think Madison, WI or Boulder, CO (eom)
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:35 PM
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39. Los Angeles. If they could scare the state into voting
Republican, Bush might actually have a shot at winning a presidential election for once.

But I really don't think the Bush team would attempt a Reichstag fire now. It would only make him look incompetent at this stage.

As for Al Qaeda, I think the Los Angeles area is their obvious choice, too. Either LAX, Los Angeles Harbor, Long Beach Harbor, or perhaps something like Disney Land.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:44 PM
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40. I'd say....
More than likely California, as a way of both scaring us into voting for Bush, and punishing us for not having voted for him last time. (Personally, I suspect that the energy crisis, recall fiasco, and the current gas prices are also part of that "punishment"

I'd say a port city. Los Angeles would be the biggest target, San Francisco the most obvious, (also allowing the Religious Right to preach that an attack on SF was "God's Will and Punishment.) San Diego might also be a target - while SD is heavily Republican, an attack on SD would lock the military solidly behind Bush *and* possibly send a message to Mexico as well, (being a border city)
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:46 PM
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41. Washington D.C. - July 4, 2004
How many politicians will be vacationing?

Where is Dubya and his entourage scheduled to be?
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:56 PM
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45. Chicago
with its own skyline, now somewhat deserted by the wise. Heartland, electoral troublespot. Huge hub and natural AlQaeda target. the fact is Bush has so ill-equipped the cities for defense he merely has to sit back at his ranch and wait for something. It is definitely LIHOP this time as far as the WH team is concerned and they have been publicly getting away with this ever since 911 if not before. Just look at the porous ports security left dangling for just one thing.

The Statue of Liberty is still tantalizing as a more bloodless symbol, but the ante has been in human lives for some time now.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:57 PM
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46. Charleston, SC or Savannah
In the heart of the gawd-fearing, white Christian south, the very folks who would certainly raise a call to arms, a "stars-and-bars jihad" if you will, if the U.S. were to be attacked. Which, I would think, would be the point in another attack if you're going with the LIHOP theory. Not to mention all those military installations, nuclear plants, and other great targets along the coast.
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