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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:05 PM
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Poll question: How should the US deal with the Shiite uprising in Iraq?
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:07 PM
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1. You seem to have every option...
Except for the ones that are actually plausible. (Ie, what we're doing, what we'd do under Kerry, etc)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:08 PM
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2. Send Bush in strapped down with DU ammo...
...like Rambo. Let him settle it mano e many mano...
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curlyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:09 PM
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3. isn't it great when the lurking freepers vote-and-run?
leaving no comment...........

The whole Iraq situation has me in a serious funk: what the hell can we do? That scumbag Bush and his nation building. Shit.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:14 PM
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4. Oddly enough, they are picking the option like their leader would.
Since the Sunni's have nothing to do with the Shiite uprising, levelling the Sunni triangle wouldn't do a whole lot to suppress the Shiites.

Unfortunately, Shrubbery has left us no good options. He started a war with no exit strategy, a war even his daddy recommended against. We have 2 choices:

1) cut and run and let Iraq devolve into either civil war or a militant Islamic theocracy

2) stay forever until the country is relatively pacified, while Islamists bomb us, snipers kill off our soldiers and aid workers, and Osama gains new followers.

Thanks Shrub.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:34 PM
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9. Originally posted by Denverbill
He started a war with no exit strategy...
There's no exit strategy because Bush wasn't planning to exit. He was planning to make Iraq his home base for taking over the rest of the Middle East.

...We have 2 choices:

1) cut and run and let Iraq devolve into either civil war or a militant Islamic theocracy

2) stay forever until the country is relatively pacified, while Islamists bomb us, snipers kill off our soldiers and aid workers, and Osama gains new followers.


I remember DU-ers predicting this these very outcomes well over a year ago, right down to Bush uniting the Shiites and Sunnis. If we were able to figure it out, why couldn't he?

:headbang:
rocknation
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:38 PM
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11. I voted for that in a cynical mood
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 01:40 PM by JVS
There is just something darkly humorous to me about that choice. It is like Homer Simpson strangling Lisa as a warning to Bart.
The idea of punish A to warn B just seemed like the typical senseless thing to do.

Seriously though, I think we should go.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:20 PM
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5. I voted let Saddam go
since removing him didn't work, we can let him go and try another way. Maybe diplomatically. Maybe the Iraqis will overthrow him themselves this time. Maybe an Iraqi would kill him? Maybe they'd arrest him. At least our soldiers will be home. We need to just cut it off right here and now. Bring in the UN.

Of course there's that matter of dead Iraqi civilians we killed, and a couple walls we've knocked down in the last year.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:25 PM
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6. If Saddam's defense lawyer can prove the invasion was based on a lie
He may end up going free anyhow.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:28 PM
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7. I doubt that
He's still guilty of many crimes and murder. Not a particularily nice guy.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:01 PM
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15. Like I said
let him go and let the Iraqis deal with him. He's their mess, not ours. We aren't in any danger from him, he's a broken man. They can go and arrest him outside the CPA. They can uprise again. Whatever. Just excuse us while we sweep up our mess and we get out of your way.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:29 PM
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8. Doubtful. They've got a lot of stuff on Saddam.
Use of poison gas, starting two wars, killing civilians, use of torture, etc.

It's going to make us look pretty stupid, however, if we try to prosecute him for his brutal suppression of the Shiite uprising back in 91, if we are right in the middle of brutally repressing a Shiite uprising. No doubt Saddam's lawyers will bring that to the attention of any court.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:36 PM
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10. I guess the trial will really depend on what Saddam has on the US


:headbang:
rocknation
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:42 PM
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12. I can tell you one thing: He's getting more ammo every single day.
Every time the US throws someone in jail without charges, every time a US soldier kills a wounded insurgent, every time a POW gets beaten, every time an innocent child is killed.

I have no idea how many Iraqis have died in the last year, but I strongly suspect that if Saddam had been allowed to stay in power, far fewer Iraqis would be dead today.

And unfortunately, every Iraq killed, innocent or not, will probably inspire 10 more Iraqis to hate us and oppose us.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:48 PM
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13. one option, two words: GET OUT
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:54 PM
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14. We should surrender. Admit defeat. Arrest Bush & co.
Send them to the Hague.

Then reimburse Iraq for the crimes we have commited there.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:02 PM
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16. I have an answer - but it involves a time machine
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:21 PM
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17. Negotiate a cease fire, get the UN involved. Leave. n/t
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