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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:17 PM
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Did Pre-9/11 Intelligence Leak to the Private Sector?
Did Pre-9/11 Intelligence Leak to the Private Sector?
PRESS RELEASE Citizens for Corporate Accountability

(SEATTLE) 04/09/04 - The revelation of the existence of a memo entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."--just five weeks before the 9/11 attacks--raises more questions than it answers.

And despite the testimony of Condaleeza Rice, few minds are put to rest. What people really want to know--particularly the families of the deceased--is why some warning of the strike didn’t make it out to their loved ones in those weeks.

Indeed, while the actual memo has yet to be released, there are now plenty of other avenues open for investigation. One important avenue is to determine to whom, and when such knowledge of the imminent attacks was communicated. Specifically, given the administrations close ties with various non-elected policy, defense, and corporate groups, it makes sense to explore whether information was released to the private sector, even though no warning was communicated to ordinary folks.

A close examination of pre-911 activities of certain privileged associates of Bush, Cheney, and others is now called for. After all, Americans would expect that Pre-9/11 information wasn’t leaked "for benefit or profit" to a privileged few--while so many others went on their way to work, or to the airport that morning...and on to their deaths.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:20 PM
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1. kick
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:22 PM
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2. I hope national media picks up on this - but today "Is Condi good liar"
polls is all they are talking about.

Of course they do not say she lied - indeed they do not touch her testimony or its problems with the truth.

But they are happy to tells us that the pollster can word a question so that while over half the folks say they are not paying much attention, they can get half say she did fine! - and have 30 something percent say she told the truth.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:24 PM
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3. Some people have questioned moves in the financial markets
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 02:26 PM by DanSpillane
Right before 09/11.

A leak to the private sector would explain such a move...

Financial and business moves of Bush associates would help track leaks back to the administration.

I am thinking we should do an online petition to look for leaks to the private sector...

Moveon.org???

Dan
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:27 PM
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:32 PM
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5. When did Bu$h know?
And what did he do about it?

And who else knew, and what did they do about it?


We all know what W did, he sat on his hands as long as he could and pretended it was more important to read a book about goats, than it was to fulfill his sworn duty as COMMAND IN CHIEF, while 3000 people died.



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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:34 PM
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6. But did he tell his rich friends rather than the American people?
THAT is the big question. BELIEVE ME.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:47 PM
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9. That falls under the 2nd question
What did he do about it?

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:54 PM
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10. Well, we know that they themselves got out of town.
Bush & Cheney split town for the month of August and headed out for the boonies. They got themselves out of harm's way. They stayed out there for a month, waiting for the danger to pass. Finally they were shamed into ending their "vacations" and came back to DC.

I'd like to know exactly when the month-long vacation was decided upon. I know that the reporters were caught by surprise when it was announced.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:56 PM
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12. Could be completely circumstantial
The one plane that went down was headed for the White House.

If the Air Force shot it down, they wouldn't tell us for PR purposes.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:37 PM
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7. Rumor: Willie Brown got low-key early warning about air travel
www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/a7/2c/200403290003.62a5a53f.html
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:47 PM
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8. Interesting
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 02:48 PM by DanSpillane
The better route is to simply track down who leaked from the top down. All those Defense Policy groups......the same ones who planned the Iraq War before 9/11. No doubt the memo went to them...and their friends.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 02:56 PM
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11. Yes, but I'm not a member of their country club
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:05 PM
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:11 PM
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25. No rumour. Brown talked about it.
The original story's still online from September 12, 2001: "Willie Brown got low-key early warning about air travel"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:36 PM
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26. Yes
But I was running on memory from the time of the event and, honestly, I didn't bother to read the material I linked, so I threw in the rumor caveat . Lazy me! I did go back and read it since then. Interesting.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:16 PM
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14. Citizens for Corporate Accountability
Is that Nader's group? Do you have a link to the press release?

I have lost hope that the securities fraud issue will ever be investigated. It needs to be.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 03:18 PM
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15. NO that's my group!!!!
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 03:19 PM by DanSpillane
The link is below.

BUT I'll be Nader's VP, or Kerry's -- if they ask me to!

The Pentagon, Federal Reserve...even Halliburton can be found reading my web site!
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 04:00 PM
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16. oops
I should have looked further on the google search page >>
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0402/S00097.htm

WTG then :thumbsup:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:46 PM
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17. That's okay...
By the way, I have found what appear to be significant reversals in stock charts for things like airlines--which correspond to the date of the Bush memo!

This is starting to stink!
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:06 PM
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23. The only
thing I've 'heard' is the stock trail led to cia chief, Tennet. Even if true, that tells us little.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:48 PM
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18. kick
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:24 PM
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19. Interesting! n/t
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:45 PM
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20. Yes, worth exploring...
thanks
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:50 PM
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21. Well Hell Dannie ...
Ill kick it ....

Thanks for your work on BBV issues too ....
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:55 PM
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22. Yeah, that sweetie Bev never stops!
Get a girl started....and whoooooooaaaaaaaa she's in Vanity Fair this month!
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:07 PM
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24. Kick!
Can't wait for Dan to add more to this. Stay tuned.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:42 PM
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27. Judging by the $15 billion in "insider trading" worldwide before 9/11...
...I would say, yes, the intelligence leaked to the private (financial) sector.

Another DU thread on this here:
"PROMIS, Echelon, CBOE and NYSE pre-9/11 show LIHOP"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1382407
(shameless kick!)
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:51 AM
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28. The PDB now raises these questions even more
Who benefitted, and if no one knew the date pretty closely, why all the trading just before?
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:21 PM
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29. Who Spilled the Beans so United and AA stock was manipulated?
That's the key. Who knew and who was told?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:36 PM
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33. Actually, the stock market and a number of key stocks turned on Aug 6th
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 08:37 PM by DanSpillane
There's more here...

I am the first person to observe this, but the stock market, and a number of key stocks, did a U turn on August 6th 2001. I'll post some charts in here later this week, or some of you others can...

But there it is up up up aug 6th down until sep 11.

This suggests the Aug 6th memo WAS important, and leaked to big money.

The options were bought at the last moment (they are cheaper that way, the closer they are to the event).

Dan
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:38 PM
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34. kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:12 PM
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32. But the question is--
Were the people making these profitable trades friends of the Bush admin, or were they the friends of the terrorists?

We will eventually know.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:37 PM
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30. That press release ROCKS!!
:yourock: Great work, Mr. Spillane! :yourock:

The wording is just subtle enough, and simultaneously CLEAR enough, to be highly seductive. This little tidbit is going to bust the bush bank, and you'd better not ride on any small airplanes, or stand near any windows in tall buildings.

Why? Because we already KNOW they were prepared, and we KNOW they told their rich buddies....they just decided to keep it a secret from the poor folks who were going to meet their deaths that day.

I like it .... "intelligence leaked to the private sector".. Damn straight it was!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

P.S. Thanks for kicking this....I hadn't seen it earlier.

:kick:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:09 PM
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31. Just a matter of time
Eventually we will have the answers.

All of them.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:06 AM
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35. Aug 6
That date may haunt them in more ways than one.

Keep up the work Dan!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:14 AM
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36. Please remember to post those charts when you get 'em!
I can't wait to see those. We need to get this out to Air America.

Has anybody noticed that since AA went on the air that some of the mainstream people have been "giving a little"?

They know that half (at least) of the people in this country don't buy the right wing propaganda....but until now we had no other real alternatives.

NOW WE DO!! (David & Goliath!)

:kick:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:14 AM
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37. Okay, it may be a few days
I am a busy college student.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:51 AM
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38. This Merges Too Well With Fitts Letter
Fitts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1384070

I've tried to kick that link back up. Too important to lose now.

FOLLOW THE MONEY.

A market analysis following 8/6 could be very revealing. We already know that activity in AA and United stocks days prior to 911 should have been thoroughly investigated.

Both cases imply that someone got more than a warning- they got specifics, and that they knew it WOULD happen.

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