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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:53 PM
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Condoleezza Rice "opened the door" by her insistance
that the 8-6-01 briefing contained "stuff from OLD memos from the past" and it was mostly historical..

The lawyers on the panel have to be salivating.. Her own mouth told them that there were other mentions, and they are duty-bound now to look at ALL of the PDB's so we can get an accurate timeline of exactly when he was told for the first time, second time, third time, etc..

They can redact until the cows comoe home, but ALL of those memos need to be viewed and even made public..

He works for US...and if he was neglectful of his PRIME duty to protect us, we NEED to know it.. ALL of it..

Those memos will also left the Iraq "kitty out of the bag" too..

If Clinton had to release everything going back 25 years, there is no reason why Bush should not have to go back a measley 8 months..
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:57 PM
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1. Yes, indeed. That, and her comments through the testimony that
she didn't think this was something she had to do anything about, or this was something she didn't think she needed to, or should, tell the pResident. Fuckin' A, Condi! What the HELL do you think the job of National Security Advisor is??????????????????????????????????

I'm STILL floored by that. What, you need an engraved invitation? You need Osama to come take you by the hand and walk you down to the Oval Office with this info? You didn't recognize this as any big deal because it wasn't printed on White House stationery or something?

JEEZ! Yet another high-level, high-fallutin' college degree - completely disgraced. Her PhD and bush's MBA. What good were they?
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:00 PM
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2. She belonged behind the counter at the motor vehicles office.
Her memory lives as a bureaucrat spins
April 9, 2004
Lucy Fishman was in the empty sky over the old World Trade Center yesterday, living another day of her full, vibrant, rapid life.
Oh, yes, you could see her yesterday. All the people who once knew her, the people from her company who survived the attack, talked about her as she stepped through the air, telling people what to do. "She was the floor mother," Kevin Madden remembered.
She was extraordinarily clear to the eye yesterday because all morning in New York, there was the contrast of Condoleezza Rice on television, slim and stubborn and unable or unwilling to say why Lucy Fishman died on the 105th floor of the World Trade Center.

Rice spoke in lifeless language of the total bureaucrat.

She belonged behind the counter at the motor vehicles office.

http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nybres093747876apr09,0,2858393.column
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:17 PM
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7. Sad article
It reminds me of a photo I saw of a woman standing near one of the gaping holes on the side of one of the towers. She was just standing there and underneath her floor smoke was pouring out. If I can find that photo I would put it on a poster and walk around Madison Sq Garden for the GOP convention.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:00 PM
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3. well condi is a sovietologist - the threats didnt have CCCP on them
and the cold war is all these guys understand...they think it is still going on
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:18 PM
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:28 PM
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5. Remember that the MBA was bought by Daddy, and that
provosts usually are people who are not very good at research (and may not be very good at teaching either) so they can't get paid well unless they enter administration in universities. They aren't any better at administration than they were at the things that matter, but they get to and stay in their jobs because they "go along to get along." There is also a Peter Principle at work here.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:07 PM
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6. Funny you should ask
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:19 PM
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8. For those that like to read . . Blips and links
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Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, and the University of Louisville in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.

March 2004

http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/ricebio.html
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Family: Single.

Quote: "I want the American people to know the story of what we did before 9/11 and what we're continuing to do now."

http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/2982431/detail.html
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In 1998, George Bush Sr. called Rice and asked her to teach his idiot spawn everything he needed to know about the world.

Undaunted by this Herculean task, Rice agreed to the request, and the clueless Bush Jr. quickly became dependent on her smartitude. Her excellent tutoring paid tremendous dividends in shining moments like Bush's 1999 interview with a Boston TV reporter, in which he was unable to name the president of Pakistan while praising the military coup which created the anonymous fellow's dictatorship.

When Bush walked into the White House with a solid majority of Broward County, Fla., voters, Condoleezza Rice was right by his side, whispering in his ear when he forgot important civics facts, like the name of the Queen of Bavaria or the number of states in the union.

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22 Jan 2001 Appointed National Security Advisor by George W Bush.
May 2001 Oil tanker Condoleezza Rice renamed to Altair Voyager. Chevron's Fred Gorell: "We made the change to eliminate unnecessary attention caused by the vessel’s original name." This was likely done at the behest of the Bush Administration, but nobody is saying anything. Multinational Monitor.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/condoleeza-rice/
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'Velvet-glove forcefulness'
Six years of provostial challenges and achievements

BY JAMES ROBINSON

Gathered last week to bid farewell to Provost Condoleezza Rice, about 100 members of Stanford's African American community were listening to Brenda Sepolen give a rapturous rendition of two of Rice's favorite gospels, "I Need Thee Every Hour" and "His Eye Is on the Sparrow."

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"Ambiguity has never bothered me at all," the outgoing provost says during a recent interview at her modest office in Building 10. "I think that part of it is that I'm pretty religious, and that probably helps to make one less fearful and more optimistic about what's possible. I rather like living with ambiguity."

/snip/

"I would expect that Condi's last tour in government will not be her only tour in government," Blacker says. "At some point in time, I expect she's going to be a person of consequence in the American foreign policy establishment. The handwriting's on the wall."

http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/1999/june9/rice-69.html

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:34 AM
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9. What did she do from 1975 to 1981?
Was she still in school all that time?? Did she teach??
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 02:32 AM
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10. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze . I gave ya 4 links!!!
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timeline

14 Nov 1954 Condoleezza Rice born, Titusville (in Birmingham), AL.
1970 Enters University of Denver at age 15.
1974 B.A., Political Science, University of Denver.
1977 Intern, U.S. State Department.

1980 Intern, Rand Corporation.
1982 Becomes a Republican.
1986 Begins working for the Reagan administration as part of a Council on Foreign Relations fellowship.
1989 Appointed to National Security Council by George HW Bush. Bush, introducing Rice to Gorbachev: "This is Condoleezza Rice. She tells me everything I know about the Soviet Union."

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And NO, I ain't gonna tellya which link it was, but it's one of the 4 above. Sheeesh, I did all the googlin', cuttin' and pastin', all ya hadda do was KLIK!

Anyhoo,hope that answers your question.

Actually, I was enjoying the beaches of California in her first year

arrrrrgh, think I'll try to remember the CA gurls instead

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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 03:57 AM
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11. Some people are born to greatness,
Some rise to greatness,
Some have greatness thrust upon them...
And some achieve greatness because they royally f**k up in the performance of their duties.
"At some point in time, I expect she's going to be a person of consequence in the American foreign policy establishment. The handwriting's on the wall."
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