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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:14 PM
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What happened to the League of Women Voters?
I'm watching the replay of the hearing held by the Commission of Civil Rights. The L of WV voters is not neutral. She is opposed to any restrictions on electronic voting. This organization has always been fairly neutral in a moderate way. Something happened.

For those who don't know, several of the leaders who got women the right to vote started the League of Women Voters. By the 80s, they were seen as nonpartisan and trustworthy. They held the Presidential debates for one or two cycles.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:18 PM
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1. IMO
Since the last election It has gotten so bad that there is no neutrality left, your either for one side or the other.

We have Bush to thank for that! "Your either with us, or against us".
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:25 PM
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2. The woman tesifying for LWV did a horrible job
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 05:26 PM by depakote_kid
from any standpoint. An utterly embarrassing (as well as surprisingly ill informed) presentation. I almost felt sorry for her. Unfortunately, iy got to be too much and I had to turn the TV off once the hack from Carnegie Mellon started in- he was much more professional- and MUCH more deceptive.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:51 PM
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3. LWV spoke out against the 527's, too
They are now the League of Women GOP Voters. I'll have nothing to do with them anymore and I told them so.

You can contact them at their website and tell them you're pissed. I did.
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meg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:14 PM
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4. US League is pushing BFEE agenda issues
See DU discussion discussion


beware of two very BFEE positions that they are pushing strongly:

Kay Maxwell, USLWV president, has published an alert to call the FEC and complain about the 527s, like MoveOn and TrueMajority.

Kay Maxwell listened to Britt Williams instead of David Dill and has fought Voter-Verifiable Paper trail.

FEC link

VVPT link

Tell the league what you think!
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:32 PM
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5. I've found the same thing in our area
I started contacting LWV members to see if they were up on all this electronic voting business. To the credit of some, they invited me to come, as their guest and a concerned citizen, to a luncheon to discuss the issue. I came armed with photocopies, website information, that great Vanity Fair article, Krugman's column, etc.
To my surprise, I found out I was supposed to sit there and listen to this snakeoil salesman who is acting as a consultant to local officials who are purchasing electronic voting equipment for our counties.
I sat there for a while, then I had enough. I started contesting all the lies, pointing out facts about the Johns Hopkins study, and he toned it down.
But, I was never given a chance to do anything other than speak when he called on me (I had to raise my hand), and most of the women there were either too out of it to know what was going on (i.e., they brought their own oxygen tanks), or young and stupid.
One of them actually said it would create too much litter to have paper "receipts."
Other than one or two who seemed to get it and spoke to me afterward in conspiratorial tones, the rest seemed disturbingly unconcerned.
It was very distressing.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:46 PM
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7. from what my mother, long-time LWV member said,MEMBERS control
the meetings, NOT invited speakers

they had lots of controversial topics here in OK over the years in which one side or the other in the debate would have LOVED to control the local discussion

suggest you see if you can find anyone who's been a member for more than 10 years and ask them what's going on

many women in politics got started as LWV members and learned they knew more than the elected officials who they were observing and decided to run for office themselves

LWV has been a long-time means of empowering women

IT WOULD BE A DISASTER IF THEY TRULY HAVE HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:39 PM
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6. DU earlier said LWV was ignoring 'from locals up' policy
means they can't react quickly, but traditionally each local studies and votes, then state, then at national convention

national is NOT supposed to speak befored local and state input

old-line League women must be furious

and new ones, if they know history of the organization
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:18 AM
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8. Many League Members are Furious
The League took a position that had not been researched and voted on- from the bottom up.

Think the head of the League and hierarchy are responsible.

Unfortuneately, most of the League membership feel that THEY have to correct this the League way- which is slow and cumbersome, although correct.

The LWV hierarchy apparently had no such qualms.

FYI, anytime someone wants a computer scientist who is FOR touch screens without paper, they get Shamos. There is one more that does the same- out of 1,600 or more others who don't.

Those who do are not security experts, either.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:31 AM
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9. They've been taken over by rich Republican matron types
in my area anyway. If you can't talk about your servant problem with them, they have no time for you.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:45 AM
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10. I told them why I'm not
renewing. The local chapter is fine, but the National is not listening.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:46 AM
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11. The repukes have infiltrated EVERY formerly progressive organization
....heck...they've infiltrated every POWERFUL organization of every kind. Back in Ronnie's day, they realized they had a bunch of rich women sitting around at the tennis courts and country clubs all day who could be put to good use. Well, men, too. They got the churches involved, and they started giving classes about how to take over the local Democratic headquarter offices.

They had the $$, they had the time (most of them didn't have to work), and they just went about it, very meticulously. There were full-page adds in the newspapers for contributions, as well, with all these alarmist messages about what would happen if "real" Americans didn't work through their churches and organizations and DO something.

That's how we got in this mess. There's another thread on here about a wingnut trying to take over a school board. This is their M.O. Even the repuke arm of the NAACP is now huge...even in the small town I live in in North Carolina. During the 2002 elections, I found out through other people working the elections across the country that they were finding the same problem when they would approach their local NAACP organizations.

The League of Women Voters was a beautiful target for the repukes. And the leadership was easily purchased and brainwashed.

The whole picture of repuke infiltration is very deep...we were asleep at the wheel. That has to change, or we're going to end up in a totally fascist/totalitarian country.

The good news is, there are more of us than there are of them. The bad news is that we're more "polite" and diverse than them. It's going to take them hanging themselves for things to change I'm afraid.

:kick:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 01:43 AM
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12. They were "infiltrated" and destroyed from within.
Just like the school boards, the Sierra Club, local governments, etc.. It's a pernicious trend.. As "working" people find less and less free time to participate at grassroots level, the dilettantes move in and change things to THEIR liking..
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