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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:48 PM
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Story about Kerry preventing 9/11 making the GOP rounds.
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 09:23 PM by Garion_55
Dont know if you all have seen it yet but this story is making the conservative rounds.

By PAUL SPERRY March 15,
2004

SEN. John Kerry boasts how he "sounded the alarm on terrorism years before 9/ 11," referring to his 1997 book "The New War." Too bad he didn't blast it when it really counted - four months before the hijackings, when he was hand-delivered evidence of serious security breaches at Logan International Airport, with specific warnings that terrorists could exploit them.
http://www.vnsfvetakerry.com/leadership.htm


if you have this story thrown at you from a rightie, simply explain to them one fact. There were NO, i repeat, NO security breaches on the ground at logan airport that day. The terrorists did not smuggle on board anything that they were not allowed to have.



BAM! DONE! end of story. slam them with that and move on. trust me it works. i just shut two righties up with that. they dropped the story quick.

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:59 PM
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1. Duh, Bush was in the White House at the time...
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 09:01 PM by rfranklin
Kerry was supposed to run the government from the Senate?

P.S.--why didn't these geniuses contact the White House?
The FBI? The CIA? The Dept. of Justice? Or did they?
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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:05 PM
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3. That was my question also.
I asked the two righties who else these guys contacted and they had no answer. Did they contact the head of security at the airport? the FAA? anyone in the whitehouse? plaster it all over the media? did they just inform kerrys office and leave it at that? something that important?
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:18 PM
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16. It's the "plaster it all over the media" that's the REAL problem......
.....These guys were FBI and their superiors in the FBI under Bush* did nothing. They went to the DOT under Bush* who were responsible for the FAA. The DOT and FAA did nothing. The agents then went to FOX News who is run by Bush*'s old friend and campaign manager Roger Ailes.(Sp?) The Fox News affiliate in Boston did an 'expose`' about the security flaws and BROADCAST IT, in effect letting the terrorists know how and where to breach security and what weapons they could get through with! It was only then that the FBI agents gave the information to Kerry, including the tape of the FOX report. Kerry did the right thing and went to the GAO to demand an investigation of why nothing was happening at the FEDERAL agency level with the FBI, DOT and FAA. Again NOTHING HAPPENED.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:05 PM
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2. uh excuse me? But there were PLENTY of security breeches.
Tighter security, such as the countless proposals made in the 1996 Gore-Chaired Airline Safety Commission Report WOULD HAVE prevented 9.11, and IN FACT CONDI HERSELF SAID that STEEL DOORS, as mentioned IN the Gore Report WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THESE ATTACKS.

Had not the airline whore lobbyists cashed out on making SURE that these recommendations were NOT implemented, including, especially ONE particular SENATOR FROM TEXAS, 9.11 would NOT have happened.

The GOP and their heinious policies and whoring caused this disaster.

End of story.
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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:10 PM
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4. i dont agree.
changing security procedures might have stopped this. (btw i am talking strictly about the security on the ground at the airport) if the airlines had banned box cutters for instance. or if they were profiliing arab males.

but the airlines did nothing wrong that day. the terrorists didnt breach security in order to get onto the plane. they were allowed to carry on what they did.

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:24 PM
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10. I need some proof that these jackers had box cutters.
I don't buy any of the official story.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:13 PM
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5. Please explain to them how FOX News helped the hi-jackers!
DU News Service



KERRY ISSUED LOGAN SECURITY WARNING PRIOR TO 911



by ParanoidPat for DUNS :evilgrin:



New York - Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry is embroiled in a new controversy today as details emerged in the NY Post of security fears raised by a former FAA employee and passed on to the Massachusetts's Senator. According to the Post report, Brian Sullivan, a retired FAA special agent from the Boston area claims to have issued the warning in May 2001 in a two page letter to the Senator. Sullivan said he personally warned Kerry that Logan was ripe for a "jihad" suicide operation possibly involving "a coordinated attack."

On May 6, 2001 Boston TV station Fox-25 made public a story by reporter Deborah Sherman on an undercover investigation at Logan that Sullivan and another retired agent, Steve Elson, helped set up, possibly aiding the 911 hijackers by tipping them off to the vulnerabilities in security at Logan. The report cited that in nine out of 10 tries, a crew got knives and other weapons through security checkpoints - including the very ones exploited by the 9/11 hijackers.

In a bizarre twist, NY Post columnist Paul Sperry blames the Senator for the attacks that originated at Logan and subsequently devastated the World Trade Center in New York City. Although Kerry told the Boston Globe that he'd triggered an undercover probe of Logan security by the General Accounting Office in June 2001, and the Bush* Administrations FAA and DOT failed to act to bolster security at the airport in light of the findings of the security probes, Sperry holds Kerry responsible for not personally following up on the inaction of the DOT and FAA.

Sullivan wrote, "Where was Kerry's sense of urgency? Where was his leadership? These are fair questions to ask of someone vying for Bush's job." It is the opinion of this writer that these are also fair questions for someone holding Bush*'s job. Let's hope someone can squeeze them in during Bush*'s 1 hour before the 911 commission.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:16 PM
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7. That was excellent!!
Do you have link for that?

:evilgrin:
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:30 PM
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13. Well you can google it or use this.....
.....link for now. :evilgrin:
Looks like the original story has fallen into the cracks, but I'll find it ;-)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:16 PM
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8. Says it all.....
It is the opinion of this writer that these are also fair questions for someone holding Bush*'s job. Let's hope someone can squeeze them in during Bush*'s 1 hour before the 911 commission.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:15 PM
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6. Lord, that's rich
IF they can't defend Bushco's actions, their defense is "Why look your guy did nothing too". Naner naner. What absoulute crap .Hello, idiots in love with Bush, Kerry wasn't President on 9/11. Neither was Clinton, neither was I. Bush is repsonsible for that day COMPLETELY, yes that day, 9/11 he was the President, he was the commander in chief, his ACTIONS that day and every day since are his repsonsiblity.

Reminds me of Limbaugh attacking the widwows of 9/11, who have done more to save the worthless asses of everybody in this country from dying in another terrorist attack than any freaking loser of the Bush adminstration.
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Garion_55 Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:25 PM
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11. thats exactly what this is about.
soon as i explained to these guys that there were no security breaches at logan, the first thing they said to me was 'ok, well then why is bush being blamed for 9/11'?
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:42 PM
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14. You had better read the link above about the security breaches......
.....at Logan discovered by the FBI. Kerry was indeed given information about them that resulted in a GAO (General Accounting Office) investigation of the FAA and DOT falling down on the job. The real question remains, "Why did four agencies under the Bush* Administration (FBI, FAA, DOT and GAO) all fail to do anything about it after FOX publicly announced the lax security to the world?" (And presumably the terrorists!)

John Kerry passed on the information as he should have and it resulted in a Bushco* investigation. The Administration has some explaining to do. :(
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:20 PM
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9. Tell them that Junior was in charge, not Kerry.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:25 PM
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12. This came up a while ago.
He did what he was supposed to do.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:51 PM
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15. You wouldn't believe...
how many times I have been through this with some repugs...

look at this thread...

Check this out
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