Wanna see denial and self-deceit? 81% say Condi right - PDB IS historical.

right here on the faux news poll:

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This is the first and last time I will ever post a faux news poll. Further, this is almost certainly the first and last time I will post anything linked to faux news.

I just thought the depths of the delusion fascinating, given the fact that the PDB ends with a bullet stating the FBI is currently investigating over 70 terrorist-related items.

Not to mention the OTHER urgent sounding "...ing" ending WARNINGS included in the PDB.

Even further, if the pResident asked for info on threats inside the US, wouldn't that in itself define the Presidential Daily Briefing as focusing on CURRENT threats, rather than "historical" data?

Historical data presented to a moron who couldn't even NAME Musharraf weeks before he stole office.

But I digress. The dittoheads (or is it dittoeheads, Dan?) and the freepers and the pat robertson weepers all think that, regardless of the facts, whatever the bush drone said is right.

Sad, ain't it?

on edit: I was mainly posting this to share my surprise that even faux viewers/visitors could be so averse to reality. The link above points to the resluts page of the poll. To find the actual poll, go to www.foxnews.com . Ok, that was the last link I ever post to faux news.

you know, we indoctrinate, you regurgitate.

by the way, with:

'...dittoheads and freepers and pat robertson weepers..."

you've got the start of a good dylanesque song.

or even think about that they have been lied to. they will do anything to justify that they haven`t been so gullible or unaware. that`s why the white house can get away with everything they do and will do. people do not like to admit they made a mistake.

was allowed to vote for me. Goes to show how the Diebold Machines will read when we go to select Kerry, "Sorry, you have all ready voted."

:eyes:

They are lying, partisan hacks.

The network of aiding and abetting.

our sorry asses. Thats whats bothering me.

Better safe than sorry.... no one told them that.???

Now he doing a 200$$Million campaign to make us look the other way. BS, he was warned and he ran away without telling us.

but, as someone pointed out...

How fucking dumb are the people in this country anyway?

Oh, they gave Bush an urgent Daily briefing with HISTORICAL information, about a month before 9/11? Interesting. I won't question that explaination, though. Rush told me not to question it.

It is kind of like how the administration "discredited" Clarke by producing "newly discovered" documents that "proved" he was lying.

Or how they produced "newly discovered" evidence of Bush's military records. You know, the ones that were poorly copied, reduced, smudged, and if they showed anything, only showed that Bush got paid for doing nothing (kinda like his presidency).

You would think that if they were going to go through the trouble of forging documents, they would at least make them legible and would make them support their claims a little better..

Why is the press in this fucking country so apathetic to all the bullshit this group of murdering assholes pulls?

voting.

You have to go to the front page and find it (on the right, a ways down) to vote...which of course is pointless because there are thousands of knuckle-dragging wingnuts who have and will vote with CondiLiar...
http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.foxnews.com/

scroll down to the right...I know it's Faux News and all...but what the hell...we can have some fun can't we...?

I voted: She "fudged" the description

Go to the poll and vote...then go back and try to vote again...look at the results when it says you already voted ...then go back and hit "view results"...those are some weird numbers...

too make people feel good for being sheeple. They using framing, selective research, moral superiority, and group think (just check out fox and friends..what a joke).

If their bogus polls didn't come out like this then they know it is time to adjust the delivery of their message till they get the outcome they want.

Keep flashing that "fair and balanced" message in between every segment...reinforces the bias.

TURN IT OFF....all it does is destroy your ability to make independant judgements.

n/t

I actually went there to verify a post from another forum, and ran across this poll.

It doesn't hurt to know your enemy.

"the terrorist's, the insurgents, the Shia, the Sunni, the Baathist, the Afghani's, just who is our enemy. I believe our enemy is within. Beware the military/industrial complex. Eisenhower warned of it in his farewell speech, Kennedy alluded to it and the best of all, Smedley Butler nailed it. "WAR IS A RACKET!"


http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

Smedley Darlington Butler

Born: West Chester, Pa., July 30, 1881
Educated: Haverford School
Married: Ethel C. Peters, of Philadelphia, June 30, 1905
Awarded two congressional medals of honor:
capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914
capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917
Distinguished service medal, 1919
Major General - United States Marine Corps
Retired Oct. 1, 1931
On leave of absence to act as
director of Dept. of Safety, Philadelphia, 1932
Lecturer -- 1930's
Republican Candidate for Senate, 1932
Died at Naval Hospital, Philadelphia, June 21, 1940
For more information about Major General Butler,
contact the United States Marine Corps.



CHAPTER ONE

War Is A Racket

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few -- the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?

This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.

For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out.

And didn't make an effort to actually see her testimony, you'd thing Condi put Mother Theresa to shame. I watched news coverage and wondered if they were watching the same video stream I did.

The Condi I saw was tremulous and evasive. She did her utmost to drag her heals when answering questions from Democrats on the panel, so as to decrease the number of questions they could ask. And you could see her vast relief when a Republicans turn came up, knowing she'd be getting softballs.

If I were investigating 9/11, I'd want unlimited access to question her. She's got info, and she's petrified of letting it out.

However, if I hadn't watched it myself, I'd think she'd done wonders.

(edits for typos)

I just bookmarked the transcript ( http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/politics/08RICE-TEXT.html ) but its 36 web pages long and I have dial up, so I'll have to figure that out tomorrow (I'm sure that's already been posted on DU, but I missed it).

OK - to do tomorrow evening. I need to know that ratio.

On top of the long festering, maturing outrage I have for these goons, they twist the screws a little tighter with their blatant lies, and their self-assured gall.

"The Best Little Whorehouse". Two step was classic and she did it, along with her beautiful manipulation and mastery of the conversation. However it was not meant to be a conversation. In my humble opinion, I watched Condi Rice get away with bloody murder last Thursday. I don't know why they let her do it. Outrageous display of power politics is all I can come up with. I think there should have been authorities waiting to handcuff her as she walked out.

First off, its a Fux news poll. Maybe they're honest in some way about their polls, but its kinda like asking ExxonMobil if they think high gas prices are good for the economy.

But assuming its an honest poll -- I heard a newsman on a major network saying that Americans will not believe that the administration could be covering up prior knowledge, since they just refuse to believe they would do anything like that. I can't understand how, with all the known and admitted to coverups in the last 50 years, anyone could believe any repub administration is not capable of that. It seems to be standard operating procedure for them.

We all know that they are just the "media wing" of the WH.. The fun thing is, that for all their bluster and harrumphing, the rest of the world knows that they are bogus.. I always get tickled when there is some symposium on c-span..and they are all journalists .. whenever soomeone mentions Fox, there is snickeriing and laughter.. I know it must eat at the guys who are there FROM Fox..

Fox is AlJazeera is Fox.:)

this then brings up the question...

of why bush* was just getting "historical" information 8 months after being inaugurated?

if terrorism was a "concern" wouldn't you think that you would be getting 'historical' info sooner in order to bring you up to speed -- not 8 months down the road?

So I guess it has no bearing on the present or the future.

it's an example of cognitive dissonance still at work in this direction: still being unable to admit to self that the Bushites are pulling a fast one over the citizens, so conflicting information, even if legitimate, is minimized.

afterall, what would one expect (the truth).