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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 01:37 AM
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Found: The 911 "Stand Down Order"?
Jerry Russell | March 31 2004
Jim Hoffman has discovered a document which I believe may be very important to the 911 skeptic movement. This document superseded earlier DOD procedures for dealing with hijacked aircraft, and it requires that Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is personally responsible for issuing intercept orders. Commanders in the field are stripped of all authority to act. This amazing order came from S.A. Fry (Vice Admiral, US Navy and Director, Joint Staff) so it appears to me that responsibility for the US armed forces "Failure to Respond" rests directly with Fry for issuing this instruction, as well as with Donald Rumsfeld for failing to execute his responsibility to issue orders in a timely fashion.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Instruction CJCSI 3610.01A (dated 1 June 2001) was issued for the purpose of providing "guidance to the Deputy Director for Operations (DDO), National Military Command Center (NMCC), and operational commanders in the event of an aircraft piracy (hijacking) or request for destruction of derelict airborne objects." This new instruction superseded CJCSI 3610.01 of 31 July 1997.

This CJCSI states that "In the event of a hijacking, the NMCC will be notified by the most expeditious means by the FAA. The NMCC will, with the exception of immediate responses as authorized by reference d, forward requests for DOD assistance to the Secretary of Defense for approval."

Reference D refers to Department of Defense Directive 3025.15 (Feb. 18, 1997) which allows for commanders in the field to provide assistance to save lives in an emergency situation -- BUT any requests involving "potentially lethal support" (including "combat and tactical vehicles, vessels or aircraft; or ammunition") must still be approved by the Secretary of Defense. So again, the ability to respond to a hijacking in any meaningful fashion, is stripped from the commanders in the field.

...
The relevant documents are on the Web at:

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/norad/docs/intercept_proc.pdf

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/d302515_021897/d302515p.pdf

..more..
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/033004standdown.html
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 01:55 AM
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1. Interesting, thank you for posting this (nt)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 04:18 AM
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2. Wonder why this was issued?
Seems might coincidental. But I thought it was a Presidential authorization?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 04:25 AM
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3. more
..snip..
If this comes up as an issue at the Washington 911 cover-up commission, it would be interesting if Fry could testify as to the reasoning behind making it bureaucratically impossible for the DOD to respond to hijackings in a timely fashion.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:01 AM
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5. It was issued to slow down the response to the attack....
...whenever it took place. The NeoCons knew it was coming, they knew what was going to happen, and they needed to let it happen to further their own agenda.

Frightening, really.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:03 AM
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6. Thats true, I
believe they hoped for another "Pearl Harbor" in order to implement their agenda. I wonder why there isn't more scrutiny to all this by the commission but I guess I know the answer.
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LagaLover Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:06 AM
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7. Doesn't look that way at all
It was RE-ISSUED from the 1997 directive (Which is normal. Most DoD directives are updated and reissued every few years to incorporate new policies, technology, other directives, etc). Looking at the summary of changes, we see that nothing substantive changed from the 1997 document to the 2001 document; especially the part about requiring SECDEF approval for lethal force.

There may be a smoking gun out there somewhere; this isn't it.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 06:55 AM
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4. KICK!
Oh yeah,

Where were the INTERCEPTORS?

:grr:
dbt
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 07:13 AM
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8. ok so is this the deal,
the jets could still be scrambled but they can not shoot without rummy's say so ? It seems there were many intercepts in the time leading up to 9/11, is this true or not ?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:29 PM
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9. good questions
a tangled web. What scares me the most is knowing they can never stop hiding the truth. They MUST continue to lie and cover up. Their existence depends on it.
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