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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:55 PM
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Asscroft up now! 3:55 PM EST - C-SPAN
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 02:56 PM by caledesi
edit: typo
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:56 PM
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1. Link
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:56 PM
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2. This is going to be the best one of the day!!!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:56 PM
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3. Gee, he has his fucking "Medal of Honor" tie on
:eyes:
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:56 PM
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4. Where is the popcorn? (nt)
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:59 PM
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12. just popped mine, w/extra butter
this is going to be good
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:57 PM
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5. Does one go to hell if he lies after swearing to tell the truth?
Or are the pious exempted?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:04 PM
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34. He said he INTENDS to tell the truth
:eyes:
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:06 PM
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40. Sure he does, to his maker on judgment day or some such hooey.
But not today.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:57 PM
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6. The Sorrows of John Ashcroft... muahhahahah
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 02:57 PM by thebigidea
"It is his faith... FACE... that is the face of evil."

ooo, nice slip there, Johnny
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:57 PM
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7. Did they cover all the naked statues before swearing him in?
:eyes:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:58 PM
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8. "His face is the face of evil".
I just turned it on--
Was Ashcroft talking about himself right there? Damn!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:58 PM
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9. He condemns OBL's 'perversion of a faith.' Pot meet kettle. n/t
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:58 PM
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10. You notice all of the apologies after Clarke.
Too fvcking late! LOL!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:59 PM
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11. Now we all know why * is having that press conference tonight!
Take the focus off 9/11 commission (esp. Asscroft).
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:59 PM
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13. Ted Olsen sitting behind him
Lying from the get go.
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:59 PM
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Here he goes.....
.....blaming Clinton already.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:00 PM
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17. 2 Minutes in- a New record
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:02 PM
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28. Yeah, I caught that too.
'problems that had existed for almost a decade'... I guess to go back any further would have placed some of the blame on poopy bush or Reagan.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:03 PM
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Yes, I was wondering how long it would take to blame Clinton. bt
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:59 PM
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14. Warriors?
WTF?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:00 PM
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15. See Ted Olsen of the "Barbara Clinton Basher" fame, in the background?
The "big guns are out supporting him."
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:09 PM
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50. Olson is there to show Ashcroft has someone on his side
who suffered a loss on 9/11 also.

All it really shows is that Olson doesn't give a shit why his wife died so long as he can have power.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:15 PM
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65. Is Olson's girlfriend
with him there?? Or, is it really Barbara made-over compliments of the govt?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:41 PM
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118. There is only one mold for women like that, so it could very well
be a government provided replacement.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:00 PM
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16. He likes that word "tough"
and now he's blaming CIA reform.

Asshole.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:00 PM
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18. The first sentence out of his mouth is about "evil".
Don't they ever give up.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:00 PM
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19. Please, please, please don't ask him to
sing.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:01 PM
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25. Actually, I think that would be perfect.
Somehow.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:02 PM
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30. Let the eagle soooooaarrr...
LOL
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:01 PM
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20. He is trying to blame Clinton for everything
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:26 PM
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96. We Need a Blame Clinton Count
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:01 PM
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21. Love this flowery speech NOT!
This Ahole should be tarred and feathered.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:04 PM
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35. He's trying to run out the clock
I'm sure he's going to waste ever second he can waste.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:01 PM
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22. his voice sounds completely different... quavery, higher-pitched
where's the gruff douchebag we know and love? Not talkin' nearly so tough today, are ya?
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:11 PM
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59. No, that how he always sounds- I hate defending Ratscroft, but that is
true.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:21 PM
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83. now that he's talking to Thompson, he sounds normal
his opening statement was very off.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:01 PM
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23. i wish someone on the commission would hold up a cat
preferably calico----or they could just be stroking it the whole time they're questioning him. Would be something to see, watch asscrap freak out and start crying.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:01 PM
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24. Asscrack just promised to tell the truth
Can't wait.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:02 PM
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26. It's not whether he KNEW, it's whether
he SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. And Asscroft should have known.

In the law, you can't get out of resposibility for your actions by saying you didn't know something. If it can be proven that you SHOULD HAVE KNOWN by looking at the facts in total, then you are responsible.

I get so tired of hearing this Administration trying to weasle out of their responsibility for 9/11.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:02 PM
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27. Wow he's Disgusting! Look at how he's talking to the Commissioners!
He sounds like the Chimp. Kill, Kill, Terrarists! Telling them what to do and how they should do it because "he knows all about everything!"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:05 PM
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37. and whining about how we don't have
a police state here where the FBI/CIA can go in and do whatever they want whenever they want.

Who hates "our freedom"--Asscroft does.

All he's doing is wanting more erosion of our civil liberties.

9/11 could've been thwarted with the laws we currently have on the books if Asscroft had been PAYING ATTENTION.


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:07 PM
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43. He's doing an advertisement for his Patriot Act saying how great he is,
and that the whole Government was a mess until he rode in on his big Bull to vanquish all the weenies!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:10 PM
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53. He's so worked up I wonder what he's hiding. Must be bad!
Now he's hitting on Clinton's Millenium plan saying it wouldn't work. I guess we're supposed to be overwhelmed with his competence!
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:02 PM
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29. He's trying to hang Tenet. ....n/t
TYY
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:02 PM
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31. Does anybody in the audience have a copy of his statement?
announced at least twice before he came into the room.

"He won't give it to us." Anybody? Beuller?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:03 PM
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32. "For almost a decade..."
Yep, it's all Clinton's fault. For almost a decade the intelligence was stymied. Here it comes.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:03 PM
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33. He's a whack job!
Comes across like the bigot he is.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:11 PM
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57. I cannot believe the arrogance.
It's like he is bragging about what a wonderful job this administration has done and of course, blaming Clinton for everything.

He's going to burn in hell.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:04 PM
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36. Bring him down! What a damned Bully, know it all! He's got all the
answers as he "covers his butt." I hope they have counter testamony from others about this jerk. Criticizing everyone but himself.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:05 PM
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38. Yeah, John blame a "wall"
and just WHAT THE HELL did you do to tear down that wall? Here goes... CLINTON built the wall. Damn his lying sanctimonious soul to hell.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:07 PM
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42. waving the Patriot act....
bleech!!! What was the memo he declassified...he said one of the panel members authored it??
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:07 PM
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46. Probably Gorelick (nt)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:07 PM
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45. Anyone else got Pink Floyd playing through their brain now?
"We don't need no thought control"...
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:05 PM
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39. I heard that Asscroft never even saw the PDB on Aug 6th.
Read it in a news article (no link). If this is true, I can't wait to hear how he responds to that one!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:06 PM
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41. He keeps calling the Constitution "a wall" that helps terrorism.
And that's his entire tactic here. Blame the intel failures on previous laws that he 'so tragically obeyed.'

Ashcroft wants to be Reagan:
"Mr. Chairman, tear down this wall!"

Jeez-he's said WALL about every other word...
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:08 PM
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47. The terrorists hate our freedoms and so does Asscroft.
He'd like to set the constitution aside because it hinders him so much.

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:07 PM
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44. How dare he bring up FISA
where's Colleen Rowley?
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:08 PM
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48. So which 9-11 commissioner created the
evil "wall" that caused 9-11 to occur? Come on John, why don't you just ship them off to Guantanamo right now? That would be just your style.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:09 PM
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51. Jamie Gorelick
Former Asst. attorney General under Clinton
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:10 PM
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52. Fuck asscroft
He is trying to bring down and blame Clinton because of his fucking bullshit approach to terrorism. He never made it a priority. FBI on the verge of collaspe under Clinton, what a fucking liar. I will watch when the questions asked.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:08 PM
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49. blaming the phoenix memo on old computers!
blaming clinton for budget problems...this guy is simply disgusting
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:10 PM
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55. woah...
He's blaming Clinton - of course...and he says their action back then should not be used as a model...well then...we'll use your "I don't want to hear it"...as a model???

HE'S VILE!!!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:11 PM
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56. He is blaming EVERTYTHING on Clinton
Citing the NSC after action review 17 months before 9/11 and Clinton cutting the FBI computer budget.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:12 PM
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61. Yeah, but what did Ashcroft do when he was asked
for additional funding for counter-terrorism? HE TURNED IT DOWN! What a liar.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:26 PM
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97. It's the Clinton Budget

I worked for the Federal Gov for over 10 years, building large
IT systems for NASA.

Ashcroft says that the last Clinton budget was $38 M less than
the last Bush (1) budget for FBI IT systems.

$38 M less! How big WERE these budgets.

I built one of the largest (if the THE largest) storage systems
in the world on less than $10 M / year budget.

It's also a fact that IT systems between FY 1992 and 2001 decrease
in price by at least an order of magnitude for equiv capability.

What crap is he spewing?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:10 PM
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54. well, so much for "not politicizing" the proceeding, the AG
is laying the partisan gauntlet down. Will be interesting to watch the give and take.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:12 PM
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62. bring it on....
Jamie, Bob, Ben and Rohmer (Jerry??) !!!!

Give it to him!!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:13 PM
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63. I think he just said a prayer to them
it sure sounded like it.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:16 PM
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70. Oh yeah...
If this LSOS (lying sack of shit--been using that term a lot lately) thinks that Bob Kerrey, Jamie Gorelick, and Richard (The Hammer) BenVeniste are going to roll over, he's in for a surprise... one millisecond of filibustering and they should cut the sucker off at the knees!

:nuke:


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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:11 PM
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58. Apparently, The Calico Kid Doesn't Know What The Word 'Summarize' Means !!!
He's gonna read his entire insipid speech, even though it's already been entered into the record.

I'm bettin he uses the 'Condi Filibuster' tactic today.

I hope they beat the crap out of him!!!

:grr::nuke::mad:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:12 PM
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60. "the staff which had wrote the review"?
Do none of these morons know how to speak English correctly??
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:17 PM
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74. He did have trouble reading his speech. ;-) ....n/t
TYY
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:14 PM
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64. who is the first questioner??? stream broke....
saying... there is NO WALL, Asscraft....
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:15 PM
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66. The Wall. The wall of Secrecy of bush/cheney/a$$crap...
information was not shared the way Reno/Clinton admin did.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:19 PM
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78. Bu$hCo = professional circumlocutors
BS at its finest.

Asscrack took lessons from Condi on how to maximize number of words in answer and yet say nothing substantial.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:15 PM
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67. Ahhhh...shit.....Gorelick is fucked
Shoulda seen that one coming.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:20 PM
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81. So Ashcroft (AG) couldn't write a clarification that overrode Gorelick?
That's Bullshit. It is was a metter of interpretation he could have just issued a new directive.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:16 PM
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68. THE WALL. Is he really talking about the Constitution?
I muted his horseshit intro.
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:16 PM
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69. The stream just cut
for a few seconds, and Ashcroft's voice turned into robotic noises... :tinfoilhat:
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:16 PM
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71. What's wrong with Thompson? He looks as if he's...
ready to fart...I don't think that he believes a$$crap.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:25 PM
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94. I saw that . . .
. . . he was pretending to read, flipping the papers and faked a pencil mark. I think you're right. It was probably gas.

TYY
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:16 PM
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72. woe the wall
who tore down down your wall mama?
Oh yeah baby, that was nobody but your own crisco kid.

Did I mention I've been on a lo-carb diet too? That helps to disrupt the network.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:17 PM
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73. 'The Wall' Perfect Metaphor For These Facist Pukes !!!


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:18 PM
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76. Well, He Sure Does Fill Me W/ The Urge to Defecate!
n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:20 PM
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another cold war meme!
Ha
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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88. ouch, lets talk about this wall business
so sez the first republican commissioner.

"The wall itself promoted this culture" The wall was a career ender in the culture of the intelligence. OK, Johnny -- "the patriot act took down the wall".
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:18 PM
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75. Question: How come the Millennium terrorist attack was prevented if the
if the Constitution and our laws were in the way and "helping the terrorist?" Anyone here think he looks like a rat- I also smell a rat now when I see him.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:19 PM
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77. Asshcrift says it was all "luck" and clarke is wrong, , ,
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:20 PM
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79. No problem, Reno fixed that for bush: "dumb luck"
We just got really lucky, and of course we acted on it, she said.

But gee thanks.....

no harm in maybe giving credit to the fact that the heads of cia, doj and fbi meet regularly... and communicated with their undersecretaries/deputies..... but she let them one get away. Thanks janet.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:21 PM
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82. He says he was operating under Clinton budget at 9/11. It was FBI's budget
that was to blame, I believe that's what he saying. The Clinton starved the FBI Budget lower than even Poppy's budget. He's blaming old computers on Clinton, too. Everything is Clinton's fault...sheesh!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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89. Calling Pikard a liar. Says he never told him didn't want to hear anymore
about terrorism. He wanted to know why we couldn't arrest Bin Laden and terrorists because he believes in being "agressive." Yeah right...how was he going to arrest Bin Laden. No one can find him!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:20 PM
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80. Operating under the Clenis budget - I only refused increases
because the Clenis made me
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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87. denying Pickard's comment...
hmmm...someone is lying here people.... He cared about terrorism...oh I get it john...you really really cared....BULL!!!

TERRA TERRA TERRA!!!!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:22 PM
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84. Doesn't his budget testimony directly contradict an earlier witness?
I'm not sure who it was, I was in the car, but it was totally different.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:25 PM
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95. Agree, maybe it was Reno's statement. Something doesn't jive although
I didn't hear all of todays witnesses. Something seems overblown in what he saying. Defending himself too much, methinks.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:28 PM
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100. Saying Patriot Act helped them "Tear Down the Wall." So simple.....
National Search Warrents, Track and Trace for E-Mail. He wants to add more to Patriot Act. Want's "Material Support" for terrorists enablers.

Patriot II stuff...blather.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:29 PM
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101. Expand the "Death Penalty!" n/t
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:22 PM
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85. I did never speak to him that I didn't not want to speak whaaaa
!_! the english...
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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86. The Pickard statement....
Pickard lied, 'I never said that to Pickard.' My heart and soul is deeply for the American people....bullshit.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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90. Ashcroft: I cared about domestic issues
that's why he spent 2001 chasing hookers, pot smokers and cancer patients who wanted to check out early.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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91. that is an EVIL, EVIL looking man
:scared:
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:39 PM
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115. don't know much about evil biology
like the 7-11 robbers. WTF?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:23 PM
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92. denying Pickard's contention that he didn't want to hear about terrorism
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 03:24 PM by robbedvoter
Bringing Cheney in to enhance credibility...Easter bunny next
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:24 PM
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93. Talk about a filibuster lie!
Man he is going to have to go to church for a week.

It looks like his brush with death didn't make him an honest man.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:27 PM
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99. .....wait, hold on. Wait until the pros get after him. Thompson
is being extra soft.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:31 PM
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106. I look forward to Richard BenVeniste. ...n/t
TYY
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:26 PM
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98. One word. . . Clenis. .....n/t
TYY
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:29 PM
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102. LOL! won't wash today.
This fucker is going down.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:33 PM
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113. What's he reading?
Does he have the questions being asked of him??
Good, let Ben-Veniste rip him a new one!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:29 PM
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103. Assholecroft

All in all, you're just another brick in the WALL.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:29 PM
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104. Ashcroft is a LIAR- counterterrorism not included in his top 7 priorities
from the Center for American Progress:

"Counterterrorism was nowhere to be seen on Ashcroft's list of top priorities for the Justice Department. Ashcroft's May 2001 "budget goals memo" outlined the Attorney General's top seven priorities. Counterterrorism did not appear anywhere on the list. After 9/11, Ashcroft released a revised strategic goals memo in November 2001 that inserted a new priority at the top of the list – "Protect America Against the Threat of Terrorism."

Attorney General Ashcroft specifically cut counterterrorism spending prior to 9/11. Justice Department documents released by American Progress reveal that in August 2001, the FBI specifically requested additional resources to bolster counterterrorism resources. In response, Ashcroft actually cut counterterrorism funding in critical areas including equipment grants, border control, and the National Domestic Preparedness Office. Our new analysis reveals the 2002 counterintelligence budget proposed by Ashcroft cut counterintelligence spending by more than $476 million – a 23 percent decline from 2001 funding levels."

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=45491
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:40 PM
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116. Will he be called on this obvious lie?
Man this is frustrating, let me ask a few real questions.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:30 PM
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105. getting misty over wiretapping, arrests w/out warrant and
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 03:31 PM by robbedvoter
all the provisions Reno said were not that necessary in the Patriot act
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:41 PM
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117. he was asked what he would keep, and he lists those and makes a WISH LIST!
Please keep: roving wire tap for NON Criminal investigations.... ie, no probable fucking cause!

National search warrants....(no states' rights..... yet again)

tap/trace emails.... this also goes to CIVIL investigations...

WISH LIST (and gosh he sure sounded JOLLY about how grrreeattt these would be)

material support for terrorists should be 'clarified'...

a presumption of no bail for those charged with terrorism. Hmmmm, that would pretty much eradicate a need for an arraignment hearing! Just arrest someone, throw 'em in jail, until their TRIAL,... A lot like gitmo

Give civil investigators subpoena power for certains kinds of business records...

expand the death penalty..... (wonder if material support people would get that too??? $5 to the arab league and off with yer head!)

He is a DANGEROUS F*CK!!!!

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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:31 PM
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107. EVIL CHEMISTRY!
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 03:34 PM by Goldom
EVIL BIOLOGY! SCIENCE IS EVIL!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:32 PM
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108. Isn't Tim McVeigh dead,?I guess Ashcroft wants to make sure that
the suicide bombers will be deterred by the possibility of the death penalty. Which there is apparent authority for anyway.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:32 PM
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109. Evil chemistry and evil biology
the man is a certifiable loon.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:32 PM
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110. Evil Chemistry and Evil Biology
That cracks me up every single time. I keep thinking it must be some fundy code words signaling the need to get rid of Chemistry and Biology from public schools.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:50 PM
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130. The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America
You have a hard battle ahead of you Democrats... perhaps a civil war. You are being twisted by the legacy of Rushdoony's tracts, neocolonialism, the money behind it all as well as the parasites that suck the blood which is soon to run out. Favella or 'secured community' in the protected part? Where will your and your kin fall?

The Despoiling of America

How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State

By Katherine Yurica

With Editorial and Research Assistant Laurie Hall

The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America

It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.<1> And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.<2> On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition.

Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church.

Robertson’s act was symbolic, but it carried a secret and solemn revelation to the faithful. It was the signal that the Bush administration was a government under God that was led by an anointed President who would be the first regent in a dynasty of regents awaiting the return of Jesus to earth. The President would now be the minister through whom God would execute His will in the nation. George W. Bush accepted his scepter and his sword with humility, grace and a sense of exultation.

As Antonin Scalia, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court explained a few months later, the Bible teaches and Christians believe “… that government …derives its moral authority from God. Government is the ‘minister of God’ with powers to ‘revenge,’ to ‘execute wrath,’ including even wrath by the sword…”<3>

George W. Bush began to wield the sword of God’s revenge with relish from the beginning of his administration, but most of us missed the sword play. I have taken the liberty to paraphrase an illustration from Leo Strauss, the father of the neo-conservative movement, which gives us a clue of how the hiding is done:

more...

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:32 PM
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111. Thompson: Setting up the question for A$$crap to say only...
bush is protecting our country...blah..blah..blah...Mr. stupid Thompson, who's suppost to protect this country right now? dah! Isn't small man bush the puppet president?

A$$crap killing time ala Sleeza.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:32 PM
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112. "Evil chemistry" AND " Evil biology"....chug if you're playing the game!
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:35 PM
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114. He just saw the 8/6 memo for the 1st time... this week.....
just like the rest of us mortal slugs. Gee, wonder if he saw the classified, full version?

LIAR.....
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:44 PM
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122. Private jet question...
let's see how he lies his way out of this!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:43 PM
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119. Asshcroft mentions Roger Hansen, I've forgotten the name and story???
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:44 PM
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120. Here comes the charter jet quesiton
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:44 PM
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121. Why isn't BV cutting this windbag off?!
We only have three real questioners for Asscroft.

Ah. Why stop flying commercial? Finally.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:45 PM
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124. Appears he doesn't
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 03:48 PM by PaDUer
like that question..lying sack of shit!
His whole demeanor has changed, he's lying and pissed..tough shit~
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:44 PM
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123. private charter jet use question is up (by Ben Veniste)
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 03:45 PM by pinto
Asshcroft claiming story false.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:49 PM
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126. WTF!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:49 PM
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127. sounds to me like it was just rumor
that he stopped commercial. thinking he can prove he flew commercial. oh well
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:49 PM
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125. blaming Janet Reno for his agency's "strategic goals"!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:49 PM
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128. WTF is he mumbling about?
Did he say that he flew commercial prior to 9/11 or just that his wife did?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 03:50 PM
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129. Please conitnue in thread 2
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