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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 04:54 PM
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It's obvious something was wrong at FBI
*John O'Neil resigning out of frustration

*The Phoenix Memo not getting the attention it should have

*Minneapolis field office agents begging their immediate superior to pass the Massoui (sic?)info up the chain of commmand only to be rebuffed.

*Ashcroft not focused on Al-Qaeda threat

*Sibel Edmonds (FBI translator) told to slow down translations in order for the Bureau to put forth the claim that thay needed more money due to lack of translators and backlog of documents needing translation.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 04:56 PM
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1. BushCo Conclusion: We need a Secret Police....
Wait for it...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:09 PM
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2. FBI TROUBLE PREDATES CLINTON
Branch Davidians at Waco--enough said
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:29 PM
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6. Try going back to J. Edgar Hoover's reign as Director of the FBI.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:17 PM
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3.  Dave Frasca
should be brought up on charges of aiding terrorism. I'll bet Colleen Rowley would love to slap the bracelets on that slimy piece of shit.
Something stinks to high heaven at the FBI.
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freeminder Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:24 PM
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4. "Something stinks to high heaven at the FBI"
I totally agree.

Look for a memo "UBL-related inquiries to be run as slowly as possible and hard evidence of direct threats to be kept from AssKroft's and pResidential eyes"

UnSigned,
Unca Dick,
hiding in a bunker holding secret enery meetings.

I'd like to see the routing of the Phoenix documents.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:35 PM
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9. "Unca Dick" . . .
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 05:36 PM by TeeYiYi
:7 I always picture that guy on SNL when I hear that name . . . expecially after Saturday's SNL performance. Superb. Wonk has the video BTW.

TYY

On Edit: Have you seen the video of what Unca Dick does in the bunker? *lol*
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freeminder Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:47 PM
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11. "the video of what Unca Dick does in the bunker? *lol*" - nope didn't
catch that. Worth to have a look? Or did you really mean *HORROR* instead of *lol* :-)
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:58 PM
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14. I meant 'lol'. *lol* *lol* *lol* . . .
I'll look around. I think I have a copy somewhere. :evilgrin:

TYY

BTW--->> I'll PM you if I find it.
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freeminder Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 06:42 PM
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15. ty TYY I can use some *lol* in advance to BSW later tonite :-) eom
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:27 PM
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5. Jamie Gorelick brings up resource allocation
What was the eff be eye focused on say from 1996 to 1999? All of Clinton's so-called scandals?
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:32 PM
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8. Excellent question . . .
. . . and I love your spelling of 'eff be eye'. (I'd like to see a second 'e' on 'be' if you don't mind.) :7

eff bee eye

TYY
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:06 PM
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16. My bad
I got distracted.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:29 PM
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7. Louie Freeh
was what was wrong with the FBI.

If Freeh wasn't so worried about the war on drugs and Clinton's penis and if he wasn't a techno dinosaur, things might have been a lot different.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:44 PM
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10. Adding to your list, from NYT, page one --
Disclosures Put F.B.I.'s Actions Under Scrutiny
By ERIC LICHTBLAU

Published: April 12, 2004

....¶In the United Arab Emirates, the United States Embassy received a call in May saying that "a group of bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives," according to a briefing that was given to Mr. Bush on Aug. 6, 2001, and was declassified on Saturday....

¶In Seattle, interrogations of Ahmed Ressam, arrested in 1999 in a failed attempt to blow up Los Angeles International Airport, revealed details about Qaeda's tactics.

¶In New York City, the bureau had detected "recent surveillance of federal buildings," pointing to possible preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, according to the Aug. 6, 2001, briefing memorandum.

¶In Yemen, an investigation into the 2000 bombing of the Navy destroyer Cole brought the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. close to 2 of the 19 eventual hijackers....

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/12/politics/12FBI.html
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:51 PM
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12. The FBI Directorship was in transition from June 2001 until Sept 2001:
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 05:55 PM by Zorra
This is another huge Bu$h mistake and failure (assuming Bu$h and the fellas didn't conspire to allow the 9/11 attack). We're getting warnings from all over the place about a possible impending terrorist attack, and Bu$h and Cheney go on vacation while a "temp", Thomas Pickard, is running the FBI as Acting Director. Mueller took over as Director a week before 9/11.

From "The Nation"

...The President counters, essentially, that he trusted the FBI to do its job. Fair enough. But consider the following exchange he had today with journalists -- and note in particular everybody's confusion about who was in charge of the FBI in those days:

Q: I'd like to take you back to August 6, 2001, if I could, and ask you about your personal response when you received the (Presidential Daily Briefing). Do you recall whether you called Bob Mueller and asked him about what the FBI was doing, asked about these 70 field investigations? And, also, did your mind go back to the PDB when September 11th hit?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Bob Mueller wasn't the Director of the FBI at the time.

Q: Did you call the Director?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't think there was a Director.

What's all this about? Well, we were between FBI directors: Louis Freeh left in June 2001, and Robert Mueller took over one week before 9/11. All that summer, the Acting Director of the FBI was a man named Thomas J. Pickard.

http://www.thenation.com/outrage/
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methinks2 Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 05:54 PM
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13. Wasn't Ashcroft the politician
who moved his office into the FBI building to keep an eye on things?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:18 PM
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17. FBI agents knew specifics of the attacks months before, and were
threatened with persecution under the National Security Act to keep quiet about it.

A number of FBI agents learned, months in advance, the dates and targets of the attacks, as well as the names and funding sources of the hijackers, but were warned off pursuing the investigation by agency headquarters with threat of persecution.

Some of them took the information to David Schippers, the former Chief Investigative Counsel for the US House Judiciary Committee, and he went to John Ashcroft's office with the information six weeks before the attacks, but was rebuffed. Schippers went public with this on the radio September 13, 2001, and is now representing some agents in a suit against the federal government. The story was corroborated by William Norman Grigg in The New American. Grigg interviewed three FBI agents, and they confirmed "that the information provided to Schippers was widely known within the Bureau before September 11th." One of them said some FBI senior field agents knew, "almost precisely, what happened on September 11th."

More info in David R W Griffin's The New Pearl Harbor and Nafeez Ahmed's The War on Freedom.

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