Bush really was incoherent, right? It wasn't just me?

I watched the press conference and kept thinking, "What the hell is he saying?" And then I saw the commentators afterwards who seemed to think it all made sense. But it didn't make sense, did it? Or am I crazy? I mean, I saw what I saw--have I lost the ability to hear coherent sentences? Can I process the language? Why are they treating this meandering gibberish as if it made sense?

..he was almost completely out of it...it was almost uncomfortable to watch as he rambled from cliche to cliche...

Tonight's press conference was surreal at times.

Where you feel like you did during the actual press conference then you listen to talking heads afterward talking about how he spoke his own language and connected.... ughhh
Scott

Seriously, I sometimes wonder if I'm losing my grip, that Bush makes sense and it's my ears and mind that don't work. I look at the reporters and want to scream "What are you seeing? What are you hearing? Why don't I see and hear it?"

Screaming at the television doesn't help for me unfortunately THank god for Air America online.
Scott

We both saw the same show and reached similar conclusions. Now you know why they don't let him do this more than once a year. You never know what to expect in advance. An accident can happen at any moment, and there was a real pile up tonight. How could anyone, here or abroad, feel reassured by a pathetic and shameful performance like that. November can't come soon enough. ---Kerry2004--- (a president who can actually speak his own language clearly in coherent sentences)

long these talking heads can keep up the farce. They obivously did not watch the same press conference we did. And they must think we are idiots. I was embarassed by him. Not the first time and probably not the last, but this is indeed bizarro.

Black is white, right is wrong, bush is genius...

Tonight I'm finally ready to accept the fact that we're doomed.

That was a painful disaster. Stuttering, rambling, going in circles, not answering questions, making grimaces. That was an embarassing disaster, even if you don't take into account his policies.

"Why are they treating this meandering gibberish as if it made sense?"

We all know the answer to that, don't we?

That's true--that's not a joke. I honestly don't think you could get elected School President if they saw you talking like that. Unless you were going for the pothead vote.

Since chances are that he'd be drinking buddies with everybody in the school.

The man (chimp) is out of it.... Rest easy, you are OK, he's f**ked.

I honestly thougtht he was either drunk or about to get physically sick, or both. I fully expected him to just give up and say he wasn't going to take anymore questions or something... truly pathetic.

Didn't surprise me, however, that the media talked as if he was doing just fine... Unbelievable.

How many times did he say "I", and talk about how he feels, and what things
bother him, etc, etc,. Its truely amazing.

My favorite was when he said something like it bothers him to see people
dying. Oh. Thanks for sharing, George.

We should turn this into a drinking game, but we'd all be alcoholics by the first answer.

You would think his handlers would have broken the chimp on this habit by now. Eh & um over & over again is not a way to to instill confidence.

It is upsetting, yes, Georgie. Go back to sleep.

for the soldiers in Iraq, for the people of Iraq, for anyone in America with a sense of hope and decency. It was a f***ing train wreck.

The magic there makes more sense than Bushspeak.

Of course it was Bush's first prime-time news conference since March 6, 2003 (just days before the opening of the war to depose Saddam) and his only other evening news conference was on Oct. 11, 2001, a month after the terror attacks - so he has only had 3 primetime time news conferences - and he killed about 15 minutes with his speech.

"At one particularly tense moment in during the question and answer period, a portable Casio keyboard was wheeled out to the dais and President Bush launched into an impromptu version of the Ray Charles hit, "What'd I Say."

Bush: Hey-y
Press Corps: Hey-y
Bush: Ho
Press Corps: Ho
Bush: Hey
Press Corps: Hey
Bush: Baby shake that thing

etc etc etc.

I guess Karen Hughes thought the public would swallow it. Rove looked uncomfortable throughout the whole mess. Every time the camera landed on him he had his arms crossed tight against his chest. My guess is that if Bush doesn't pick up some points in the polls pretty quick they're gonna let Hughes go back to being a full-time mom, since she loves it so much and can't resist telling the world how good she is at it.

But hey, Condi looked relaxed and refreshed, didn't she?

:puke:

Hilarious post, thanks. And a belated welcome to DU. You're good.

I think he was only taught small phrases so when he got nervous - that's all he could remember.

LOL

MassFem

Normally you'll see a lot of people here criticize him because they know a lot about what's going on and can see the incongruity between what he says and what's really going on...but this, this was something just about anyone could see.

Then later he admonished a questioner for not having submitted his question in writing before hand THEN he was speechless for 30 seconds.
He talked for another minute saying that the pressure of the news conference had caught him off guard and then said maybe somthing will come to him in a minute.

3 minutes latter he went to another questioner having not answered the question while it seemed he really forgot what the question was.

The question was "Is there anything you would have done differently?"

The senior moment was embarrasing and the typical nightmare we all might have in utterly failing on stage.

CNN only praised the President and the delivery ect.

is the fact that the media treats this incoherent nonsense as if it has real news value. Most of the time, he was nowhere near the substance of the question, and sometimes, he didn't make any sense at all. The atmosphere seemed really tense, as well, like everybody was afraid he'd fall apart. I really sometimes think I'm insane when I hear the way the media talks about this "presidency."

among journalists that they won't directly comment on the POTUS when he unequivocally bombs or embarrasses himself. Or maybe this is just so G-- D--N precedent setting and they have never seen anything like it, and aren't sure how to respond. Sort of .... if you say it out loud .... we really might be truly fucked. If you don't say it, you can...

SayitAintSo ....

well the effects of drug and booze addition for many years. under stress his brain can`t process complex thoughts anymore..

coming from the soldiers already in Iraq.

That's a neat trick, isn't it?

the centcom general-abizaid- has been running around washington telling people-"i`m not going to take the fall"..he also questioned the operation in fullja..a commander questioning the commander in chief.....

why can't they just say he wasn't wearing any? How can they review and comment on gibberish????

The Smirk. And I also saw something rather odd - that I've become increasingly aware of, while watching him.

If you look closely at bush's speech patterns, you'll notice that he drawls along for a few words, or a few sentences, in sort of a halting staccato tempo, and his lips don't move a lot. But THEN, at certain intervals, he OVER-pronounces something. Then, his mouth gets a lot bigger, as though to wrap itself around a long, big-ol' 30-dollar word, and he enunciates that word REALLY extremely. Then it's back to drawling away with the lazy mouth. Always has reminded me of those times back in the dorm when everybody'd be drinking and one or another of 'em would have to look or sound coherent - maybe when somebody outside the party came into the room and you didn't want to look so potted. So you bend over backwards to PRO-NOUNCE EACH AND EV-ER-EE WORD as distinctly as you can, and it just sounds really stilted and artificial, and you don't fool anybody.

Just weird. And a whole lot of dancing around the head of a pin, if you ask me. They put it to him pretty simply tonight, a couple of times - about how he's never apologized or accepted responsibility, and he just wandered all over the map each time. Later on, on the "Hardball" "post-game show," Chris Matthews (who's actually been doing a semi-respectable job - must have spent just a little too much time listening to those 9/11 widows) mentioned that the definition of an ideologue is one who never admits he or she is wrong about anything.



By the way, NOTE MY SIG LINE. First Thing In The Morning would be a good time to weigh in with your reps - about how you view his performance. They'll be getting LOTS of dittoheads and freepers calling in, to say they just LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV him.

Me and my wife both just looked at each other every couple of minutes in amazement as Bush babbled on as if he was a stranger off of the street that someone had shoved into the room to answer the questions.

A speaker that creates 15-30 seconds of dead air on live television should not be giving speeches without the aid of a script.

and yet the news is acting as if he made a good, articulate, clear, substantial speech. i have been sitting here the last two hours trying to figure it out.

thing, right? He was abysmal. And I loved the answer to the "why are you and Cheney appearing before the Commission together?" "Because they have questions and we want to answer them" "But why are you appearing TOGETHER?" "Because they have questions and WE WANT to answer them." Makes your head spin. :crazy:

"debates" where an articulate, intelligent, obvious debate winner "lost" the debate because of his make-up.

Did y'all see the motion Shrub made when he was talking about a stove pipe? He had both hands out and was motioning them up and down just like he was giving a hand job. It begs for a screen capture or possibly a short animation. Maybe, I've just got a warped mind.

He just said the only questions the douche bag really answers are the ones about gay marriage.

Imagine, they had EIGHT YEARS of utter repig hell in which to gather their forces and find their voice and dumbya was the best they could do. Pathetic, and sad that so many Americans fell for it, and continue to fall for it.

At first I was dazed and confused. I have been thinking, well maybe it's me and I don't understand English anymore. This was an train wreck. He was incoherent. I could only stand to watch till the question about taking responsibility. He can never admit he's wrong. I really do think he is insane.
Another thing, as Judge Judy always says, "um is not an answer!"

all the posts, I'm sorry I missed it. I honestly forgot about it. bummer!

I had to wipe the drool off my chin after listening to him fumble through his drunken homily. The only thing that saved my IQ was a quick read through the American League section of Baseball Prospectus 2004. Drool problem solved after that.

Seriously, I was wondering what speech Chris Matthews and Howard whats-his-name watched when they cooed and purred back and forth about how humble he was. HUMBLE? Maybe you were supposed to listen to the speech in double-slow time or something because I sure as hell didn't get humble out of it. I got an extra helping of dumbass coonskin cap carpetbagger arrogance out of it...the usual George W. Bush, fumbling with or just plain old raping the English language, talking about "my armed forces" when taking credit and "our responsibility" when deflecting blame.

It's speeches like that one that make it hard for me to have any sympathy for anyone ignorant enough or disengaged enough to vote for him.

I was happy to hear him mention his administration in the past tense several times, though. Glad to hear he has at least enough basic animal instinct to understand his time and his kind are soon to be a stain on history's underwear.

...but once the questions started he really fell apart fast. I was so embarrassed for him I had to turn it off. Too bad, because it sounds like I really missed some gems.
I did hear the "my government." I also heard him saying that a "Charlie" did find the WMD in Iraq, including the long range missiles. What did he really say there? I'm thinking there's no way he could still be claiming there are WMD, right?

Didn't you all hear that, when he talked about WMD? It was something he got really excited about.....

Was it just me, or did anyone else hear that?

Bush has preferred the limited exposure of joint news conferences with visiting foreign leaders, such as one Monday with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, when members of the press of each country get to ask only a few questions and few Americans watch.


But Bush needed to reach an increasingly anxious country. He bumped the popular television show "American Idol" in the process. Yet while his resolve was firmly stated in his opening remarks, he frequently stumbled when answering questions, lapsing into awkward silences as he searched for words.

---KR Washington Bureau

the one where the guy asked "What would you have done differently regarding 9/11 - OMG - his answer was unbelievable. Something like"I wish I'd know you were going to ask that quesion because nothings really popping into my head right now." DID HE REALLY SAY THAT??? DID THIS REALLY HAPPEN??? If the media is in fact (I don't watch their BULLSHIT) saying it's good....guys....they are even more f'up'd up then I thought and I absolutely despise them.

BUSH: I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it. John, I'm sure historians will look back and say, gosh, he could've done it better this way or that way. You know, I just -- I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet. I would've gone into Afghanistan the way we went into Afghanistan. Even knowing what I know today about the stockpiles of weapons, I still would've called upon the world to deal with Saddam Hussein. See, I'm of the belief that we'll find out the truth on the weapons. That's why we sent up the independent commission. I look forward to hearing the truth as to exactly where they are. They could still be there. They could be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas in a turkey farm.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html

He's another undeserving one who rode the family connection gravy train to fame and fortune. I knew him back in high school days as a moronic, racist scumbag. If the voters of Virginia knew about his past, he'd have been too embarrassed to run for any office.

Usually I can't bear to watch Chimpy McCokespoon, but tonight was different. I could bear it, because it was so painfully awful. You could see him come unglued and fall to pieces throughout the course of it. From him admitting he couldn't come up with an answer to the non-planned question, to snapping at the press corps on numerious occasions near the end. He was stammering, incoherent, and didn't even sounded like he believed his own bullshit at times. You could tell from the way Rove was sitting (crossed arms with pursed lips) that the smirking ape was going to get a lashing after the conference.

And personally, I feel the media was tougher on Bush after the conference than at any other point. Hell, on NBC's minute-long post conference reaction, Tim Russert and their White House correspondent both said that Bush dodged the answers and was still telling a different story than he did last year.

The beauty of it all? It was in prime time, where more people had the oppurtunity to see it in full instead of a 30-second clip on their nightly news. Drip, drip, drip, splash... Dubya's battleship has been sunk.