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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:22 AM
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If 9/11 had not happened...how would bush be doing right now?
I have asked this question before and gotten nothing.

I know we can't go back in time, but I am curious as to how this administration would be
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:26 AM
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1. We'll still be bankrupt and at war with Iraq.
He would simply have trumped up a different excuse.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:28 AM
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3. but would he
have the support that he got right after 9/11?

I am not so sure.

He didn't "come into his own" until after the attack.

Had that not happened, he probably would have been roasted by the press long before
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GhengisKhan Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:41 AM
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5. I think you are correct
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:35 PM
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24. Exactamundo
Read the Path to War in Vanity Fair:

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" Both spoken by Rice (Bushlicker number 1) and Cheney (Bushstuffer number 2) regarding Iraq. They could lie their way into anything they wanted.

They didn't need 9/11 but damn it sure made it easy!! (Trifecta anyone?)
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gmaki Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:28 AM
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2. Planning 9-11
eom
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:29 AM
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4. Impeached, by a Democratic dominated house and senate
The economic outlook would still be the same (tax cuts for the rich, corporate fraud, rich get richer, etc).
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:25 AM
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9. so true
but I think he would be much hated by now, the only thing that has endered him to most of the public is his "actions" since 9/11. It doesn't matter that he is a puppet and his actions on that day prove he is the biggest coward on the face of the earth
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:49 AM
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6. He would have found another excuse to invade Iraq
so we would have that controversy.
if no 9-11, perhaps more attention would be paid to one of my sources of rage and astonishment: Bush's despoiling of the environment. I think it should be a major campaign issue. On EVERY front, he has weakened standards, let major polluters off the hook, delayed standards etc.
He is a terrible president in so, so many ways.
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mrtdot Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:22 AM
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7. We'd still be at war with iraq
We would still be fighting Iraq, just for some other BS reason.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 03:01 AM
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8. Wondering what went wrong on 9/11
that POS LIHOP
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Cursive_Knives512 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:27 AM
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10. There probably would be less blind patriotism
Which would be a very good thing. I wonder if Bush* would have invaded Iraq anyway... probably.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:35 AM
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11. yes
I believe that was his main agenda. To "avenge" his daddys almost assassination
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:37 AM
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:46 AM
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13. whatever
freeper
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:46 AM
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:48 AM
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16. You may not agree with us, but...
I don't think resorting to childish tactics will help any of us in the long run.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:47 AM
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15. packing (nt)
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:49 AM
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17. BAD: Bush* has a downward slope, punctuated only by upward spikes
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 08:54 AM by gbwarming
Look. There's none of the usual up and down, smooth sweepy trending for GWB* - just a constant downward slide lifted only when people die.

http://www.radiofreemonkey.com:8080/charts//img_bush_approval.gif

http://www.radiofreemonkey.com:8080/charts //
Check out these charts to compare * to actual presidents

Edit: Note that each spike is lower. I think the poeple are fatigued. The spikes are from 9/11, Iraq war, Saddam capture, (and the last, tiny one?). This leads me to think OBL capture will be a complete dud - especially since we KNOW that it won't mean the end of the war on terror.
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SnohoDem Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:04 AM
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18. Probably not impeached
More than likely polling in the low twenties. Probable Democratic majority in Senate, possible majority in house.

At least half of his support is 'patriotism' - that tendency to rally round the leader when we're at war.

I don't see how he could have gotten us into Iraq without 9/11. The lies wouldn't have been enough without the recent searing memory of the attacks.

He would have faced a half dozen contenders in the primaries, and McCain would probably be winning the nomination.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:14 AM
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19. I believed he would
be below 30% in job approval ratings, which is where I predicted he'd be by December 2001 (but that prediction was made pre-9/11). But I think I gave a little too much credit to some of his followers - I thought they'd be smarter. So I guess I might revise that up to 30 to 40% approval.
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:22 AM
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20. He should
Send UBL a thank you card...turned him into a hero overnight.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:25 AM
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21. Dunsel
* would serve no purpose if it wern't for 9/11. The military was already disillusioned with him over the "Restructuring". His whole base would have left him by now.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:22 PM
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22. so why can't people see
that now?

why are they so blind
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:30 PM
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23. He would be exactly where he is now
nothing would be different
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