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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:23 AM
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When Bush says "obviously," does it mean he's lying?
I just watched parts of the horror show for the second time, and was struck by Bush's answer to the question about it coming out today that the 8/6 PDB was exaggerating about there being 70 of something (terrorism alerts?) from the FBI. The reporter asked if Bush was aware of this, and Bush said something like, "I obviously found out today."

That immediately set my radar off, because it sounded so much like Bush's claim that he was able to see the first plane hit the WTC because there was "obviously" a tv on in the corridor.

So my first question is whether this strikes anyone else the same way, and whether you can think of any other times he's used "obviously" to cover up an outright lie. (I think there was at least one, but I'm not recalling the circumstances.)

And my second question is why might he lie about this? Was he simply not aware of it before being asked the question and trying to cover up? Or could there be something deeper going on?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:25 AM
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1. Open mouth, stupidity or lies or both come out. n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:34 AM
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2. Its an arrogant, condescending way to force out a lie
Or, it is a good way to make a questionable statement without having to resort to facts.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:00 AM
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3. It should be obvious

That the *Emporer has clothes.If the clothes that the *Emporer are wearing aren't "obviously visible",that means one must be a dumbass.

The only thing obvious to me is that boosh is a fucking moron.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:02 AM
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4. ha ha ha!
I just likened Dubya to the Emporer in that story a few days ago. He seems gullible enough.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 03:10 AM
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5. It absolutely struck me the same way
And I thought that gave away the 9-11 plane claim as a lie from the first time I heard him say "obviously" about that.

If you've raised kids, you know liars use extra words to advance their authenticity.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 04:03 AM
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6. Thanks for confirming this for me
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 04:05 AM by starroute
I wasn't sure I wasn't reading too much into it.

And you're exactly right that it's just the sort of thing a kid would say:

"Johnnie, what are you doing to your little brother?"

"Well, I'm obviously trying to help him clean his toys up."

(Johnnie goes back to ripping up his little brother's Lego buildings.)


On edit: I think it's more than just using extra words. It's kind of like saying, "Any fool can see that . . ." It's got an implication of, "If you challenge me, you reveal your own stupidity."
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 04:23 AM
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7. the word doesn't matter
pretty much if he opens his yap, he's lying.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 04:36 AM
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8. Obviously. (n/t)
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