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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:27 AM
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Need links to Bush speechs with specifics about WMD he
told the world were there.

Some idiot, in another chat room, just asked if my comment about the gov't lied to us to go to war with Iraq:

"Surely you don't believe this. What you are saying is that president Bush knew they didn't have WMD an knowing told everybody they still did."

After several months of the neocons dominating this board, there are alot of people who said they thought he'd lied - I was blown away.

But when I respond to that poster, I want to have links to places where they gave the specific numbers.
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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:32 AM
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1. Here's a start
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 05:37 AM by Another Bill C.
I copied this from a posting here but I don't have the link:
On edit, these are quotes where he made a connection to al Qaeda. Sorry. I'll keep looking.

“With nuclear arms or a full arsenal of chemical and biological weapons, Saddam Hussein could resume his ambitions of conquest in the Middle East and create deadly havoc in that region. And this Congress and the America people must recognize another threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaida. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own.”
— President Bush, State of the Union Speech, Jan. 28, 2003.

“But what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the al-Qaida terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida lieutenants. … But Baghdad has an agent in the most senior levels of the radical organization Ansar al-Islam that controls this corner of Iraq. In 2000, this agent offered al-Qaida safe haven in the region. We know members of both organizations met repeatedly and have met at least eight times at very senior levels since the early 1990s. In 1996, a foreign security service tells us that bin Laden met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official in Khartoum and later met the director of the Iraqi intelligence service. Saddam became more interested as he saw al-Qaida’s appalling attacks. A detained al-Qaida member tells us that Saddam was more willing to assist al-Qaida after the 1998 bombings of our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Saddam was also impressed by al-Qaida’s attacks on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000.”
— Secretary of State Colin Powell, Statement to the U.N. Security Council, Feb. 5, 2003.

“After the attacks of September the 11th, 2001, we will not allow grave threats to go unopposed. We are now working to locate and destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. This is a historic moment. Just over a month ago, not all that long ago, a cruel dictator ruled a country, ruled Iraq by torture and fear. His regime was allied with terrorists, and the regime was armed with weapons of mass destruction. Today, that regime is no more.”
— President Bush, Speech to workers at Abrams tank plant in Lima, Ohio, April 24, 2003.

“The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 — and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men — the shock troops of a hateful ideology — gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the ‘beginning of the end of America.’ By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation’s resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed.”
— President Bush, aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003.

“The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that still goes on. al-Qaida is wounded, not destroyed. The scattered cells of the terrorist networks still operate in many nations. And we know from daily intelligence that they continue to plot against free people. The proliferation of deadly weapons remains a serious danger. The enemies of freedom are not idle, and neither are we. Our government has taken unprecedented measures to defend our homeland and, more importantly, we will continue to hunt the enemy down before he can strike. No act of terrorists will change our purpose or weaken our resolve or alter their fate. Their cause is lost. Free nations will press on to victory.”
—President Bush, Weekly radio address, May 3, 2003.

“I think that if you ask, do we know that he had a role in 9-11 — No, we do not know that he had a role in 9-11. I think that this is a test that sets the bar far too high. I don’t think that we want to try and make the case that he directed somehow the 9-11 events.”
—National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice, Interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Sept. 8, 2003.

MR. RUSSERT: The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. I think it’s not surprising that people make that connection.
MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don’t know. You and I talked about this two years ago. I can remember you asking me this question just a few days after the original attack. At the time I said no, we didn’t have any evidence of that. Subsequent to that, we’ve learned a couple of things. We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the ’90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization.
We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of ’93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven.
Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop anymore of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know.
—Vice President Dick Cheney, Interview with NBC’s Tim Russert, Sunday, Sept. 14, 2003.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:48 AM
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2. Here 'ya go!
George W. Bush: "You can't distinguish between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein when you talk about the war on terror....The regime has
long-standing and continuing ties to terrorist organizations and there are al-Qaeda terrorists inside Iraq."

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/01/bushiraq021101

Ivan Eland (Director of Defense Studies at the Cato Institute): "The CIA is skeptical of ties between Al-Qaeda and Iraq -- justifiably so. The
CIA run around trying to corroborate this stuff, and it hasn't had too much luck. And the ties that they have claimed seem very thin
and on closer inspection don't seem to go anywhere.”

http://www.rferl.org/features/2002/10/29102002161249.asp

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Donald Rumsfeld (Secretary of Defense) "If you're asking, are there al Qaeda in Iraq, theD answer is yes, there are. It's a fact, yes."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Iraqpolitics020926.html

Vince Cannistraro (Former head of the CIA's counterterrorism office): "Is there any confirmed evidence of Iraq's links to terrorism? No."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Iraqpolitics020926.html

Brent Scowcroft (Foreign Policy Advisor): “There is scant evidence to tie Saddam to terrorist organizations, and even less to the Sept. 11 attacks.
Indeed Saddam's goals have little in common with the terrorists who threaten us."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133

==============================================

Colin Powell (Secretary of State): "This despotic regime .....gassed its own people.....".

"Both Iran and Iraq used chemical weapons against each other during their war. At the termination of the Iran-Iraq war, professors Stephen
Pelletiere and Leif Rosenberger, and Lt Colonel Douglas Johnson of the US Army War College (USAWC) undertook a study of the use of
chemical weapons by Iran and Iraq in order to better understand battlefield chemical warfare. They concluded that it was Iran and not Iraq
that killed the Kurds."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=22569589

============================================

George W. Bush (October 2002) "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

Mohammed ElBaradei (International Atomic Energy Agency Director): "We have to date found no evidence that Iraq has revived its nuclear
weapon program since the elimination of the program in the 1990s.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/iraq_01-27-03.html



George W. Bush (October 2002): “Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

Mohammed ElBaradei (International Atomic Energy Agency Director): “First, we have been inspected all of those buildings and facilities that
were identified through satellite imagery as having been modified or constructed over the past four years. The IAEA inspectors have been
able to gain ready access and to clarify the nature of the activities currently being conducted in these facilities. No prohibited nuclear
activities have been identified during these inspections.”

http://www.usembassy.it/file2003_01/alia/a3012703.htm



George W. Bush (October 2002): “Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges,
which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html


Mohammed ElBaradei (International Atomic Energy Agency Director): “A particular issue of focus has been the attempted procurement by
Iraq of high-strength aluminum tubes, and the question of whether these tubes, if acquired, could be used for the manufacture of nuclear
centrifuge. Iraqi authorities have indicated that their unsuccessful attempts to procure the aluminum tubes related to a program to
reverse-engineer conventional rockets. To verify this information, the IAEA inspectors have inspected the relevant rocket production
and storage sites, taken tube samples, interviewed relevant Iraqi personnel, and reviewed procurement contracts and related documents.
From our analysis to date, it appears that the aluminum tubes would be consistent with the purposes stated by Iraq and, unless modified,
would not be suitable for manufacturing centrifuges.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iraq/elbaradei_report.html

==============================================

Colin Powell embarrassingly tried to convince the U.N. Security Council of Saddam's
deception by citing a UK dossier that was based on a ten-year-old plaguerized doctoral thesis.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0,3605,890898,00.html

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:03 AM
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3. 237 documented 'mis-statements' on Iraq
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