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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:21 AM
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Can "brown-skinned" people be self-governing and free ?
You know... It's something I never thought of until President Bush brought it up. The President seems to think it's a possibility but only if White Skin people invade their country and teach the "Brown Skinned" people how to do it. Each day I kneel by my bed and pray to the white skinned Lord, Jesus Christ and thank him for the Christian White Skin people on earth. Imagine if we were not around? Imagine the chaos on earth if "Brown Skinned" people were left to fend for themselves.

Be grateful "Brown Skinned" people that we White Skinned people are here to guide you to a self governing and free society.

BTW: I just rented Lawrence of Arabia...has anybody seen it and is it any good?
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:24 AM
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1. Who said Jesus was white skinned?
eom
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:28 AM
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6. snarf
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:36 AM
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13. Ok please enlighten me
What is snarf?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 AM
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18. It's a compliment; a la:
"What you said is so funny, yet terribly true, that I sort of laughed loudly to myself through my nose and am now cleaning up the subsequent mess while simultaneously posting."

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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:43 AM
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21. Thanks
I learned something today. I guess it's true your never to old to learn!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 AM
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19. Snarf is when you shoot coffee out your nose
when you read something funny... And you wrote something funny.

BTW: Who says Jesus wasn't white?
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:57 AM
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24. I seem to remember something about Jesus being Jewish......
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:31 AM
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8. Mel Gibson did
I mean geez, everyone is white in a movie that takes place in an area that is dominated by both olive & brown skinned folks.

"Brown-Skinned" folks will never be free while Bush is in office - not in the Middle East or in America.

:cry:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:26 PM
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37. Whyd he have alla them peepul tawkin that furrin gibberish
anyway? Ifn Inglish wuz gudda nuff fer Jeeeeeeeeeeeezuz its gudda nuff fer me.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:34 AM
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11. hey, Jesus was an American!!!
and if you don't believe it, you're a commie and will burn in hell!!!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:24 AM
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2. Ill stick to George Carlins view of white folk...
"Where the ones who have fucked it up and mad things so god damn bad. But who is to say if any other race woulda done any better"
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Cursive_Knives512 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:24 AM
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3. Good point
I should've thought about that before. Now I know--us good, white folks need to go over and save them. :puke:
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:26 AM
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4. The thing that makes self-governing and freedom difficult in countries
like Iraq is not that the people are "brown skinned," but that some "white skinned" people drew up borders of states in the early 20th century that are not designed at all to make democracy very easy, and sometimes were designed for the very purpose of making that as difficult as possible.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:26 AM
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5. His over-simplistic mind makes every child sound like a prodigy.
I'm tired of seeing Republicans fawning over him, getting excited when he utters a three syllable word correctly. The bar has been lowered so low for Bush that only cockroaches can limbo with it.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:29 AM
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7. that was charLie manson's pLan
after the "brown skins" won the race war, he wouLd Lead them.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:32 AM
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9. very good movie.
seems things never change.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:33 AM
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10. Your second point
Yes Lawrence of Arabia is a good flick.

I say it when it fist came out and then again just in the last few months AND after struggling trhough A Peace to End All Peace . I had a much better understanding of what was going on in the film. When I first saw it I didn't realize the torment that T. Lawrence was going through. He was lying to his Arab friends and knew it. It added much context to his behavior.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:39 AM
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15. I was kind of kidding about seeing it cause I've seen it 20 times
and it educated me exactly the point I am trying to make... LOL
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 AM
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17. (Blush)
I'm embarrassed...........
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:35 AM
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12. White man's burden: Missionary mentality
this is where these guys are coming from.

Iraqis can't rule themselves unless the US goes in and shows them how to do it... :eyes:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:36 AM
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14. As my Asian Indian husband said when he heard that:
":wtf: is he talking about? Has he never heard of India?"

My response: "The man couldn't find India on a map with Rove's help!"
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stryker18 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 AM
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16. I'm Italian
But I'm a "brown-skinned" person. Does that mean I can't govern myself?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:42 AM
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20. NO
but you make good Pasta. ;-)
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CabalBuster Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:45 AM
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22. Aparently Muslims that are Black or Asian are not included
He is so ignorant to know the largest Muslim country in the world is not composed of brown skinned people: Indonesia
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:51 AM
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23. He's implying that his critics think "brown-skinned" people can't....
... self-govern.

"Some of the debate really center around the fact that people don't believe Iraq can be free; that if you're Muslim, or perhaps brown-skinned, you can't be self-governing and free. I strongly disagree with that."

Yes, Mr. Bush, your critics are the ones who are racist yahoos using terms like "towel-heads", and saying we should nuke them all. I hear that ALL the time on Air America. Not a day goes by when I don't hear Paul Krugman or Al Franken or Arianna Huffington talking about those "brown-skinned" people over their who don't know how to live free.

And we also all have a problem with Condi Rice. You know, "an African-American woman".

Yes, that's us. The liberal elite in a nutshell. He SO has us pegged!

(/SACRCASM OFF)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:54 PM
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27. Excellent post Brotherjohn
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:01 AM
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25. No
:(
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:10 AM
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26. Sure as hell NOT!
'Specially if they got resources white-skinned people want. ;-)
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:35 PM
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28. Bush's foreign policy, by Rudyard Kipling
Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.


Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.


Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.


Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.


Take up the White Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"


Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.


Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:43 PM
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29. don't make me start liking you, trumad.
:silly:

Has anyone thought to ask Bush why his GOP predecessors thought the "brown-skinned" people of Chile, Guatemala and El Salvador couldn't govern themselves properly?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:49 PM
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30. ulysses...admit it... you hate liking me
just like you hate liking chocolate...;-)
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:52 PM
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32. eh - I'm a savory kind of guy myself.
Post something about Nader or I'll liken you to a pot roast. :D
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:27 PM
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38. Whaaaaa?
I Love Nader...
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:35 PM
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40. and you're a pot roast!
Presto! :D
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:51 PM
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31. Not if your Haitian. American coup, kidnapping Aristide? REMEMBER?
Cheee-rist. Just six short weeks ago.

No one seems to remember or mention this. As if it never happened because our focus is totally on Iraq.

Just a few hours away from our borders, the US armed thugs with 20,000 new M16s next door in the Dominican Republic and encouraged them to kill and terrorize their way across Haiti.

The private US security corporation that supplied a security force to democratically-elected Aristide was told by the US gov't to stand down.

US helicopters flew in and Marines told Aristide he was going to a press conference and instead kidnapped him with his US citizen wife and whisked them away to the Central African Republic where they were kept in captivity while violent terror swept through Haiti.

AND DUMBYA TALKS OF BROWN-SKINNED DEMOCRACY??!!
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:54 PM
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33. I wish there were a Bizarro Fox News channel or Drudge.
I can see the headline now:

"Bush: if you're... brown-skinned, you can't be self-governing"
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:59 PM
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34. Goes back to that colonialist mentality
of the savage. The Christian west has done it for hundreds of years - invade a country and basically inslave the indiginous population. We continued with our own brand of imperialism - all in the name of democracy of course. Help those poor souls learn to be civilized like us. yeah, right. We want them to choose their own leaders in democratic elections, but only if we get to choose the candidates, because we know they aren't able to do this themselves. Then we need to stay around and police the situation, just in case some uppity so-in-so thinks they know better than us. And plus, we know those guys can't fight - right? Bush said it last night. I repeat Asshole!

:kick:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:02 PM
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35. It's a good thing I have white people to look out for me
That miserable failure of a president can kiss my brown ass.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:23 PM
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36. He couldnt be more offensive
and disconnected if he tried. In my moment of anger i whipped out a bumper sticker instead of screaming.

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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:28 PM
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39. George Carlin warned of this in his book "Napalm and Silly Putty"
I kid you not...one of the end chapters...
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