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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:26 AM
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Poll question: Most evil dictator the USA was ever chums with?
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 09:27 AM by JCCyC
Nominations thread was here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1398642

This list includes only dictators (or dinasties of dictators) that were in cahoots with the US govt. for their entire run at power, and never have (or still haven't) "become bad guys" like, for example, Saddam.

Edit: grammar
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:31 AM
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1. I am holding out for Bush.. he thinks he is one nt
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:44 AM
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8. *
Chimpy gets my vote.
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CabalBuster Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:33 AM
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2. You forgot to include Musharraf in Pakistan
and Sharon in Israel who is also an indicted war criminal.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:36 AM
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3. I second those two
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:38 AM
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4. Dude, I have only 10 slots available... 9 if I want to include "other".
And too many dictators. That says something, doesn't it? :eyes:
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:48 AM
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11. Neither of them are dictators, and they're Ghandi compared to the other
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 09:50 AM by Bombtrack
people on that list, and more than a dozen current heads of countries today. Musharreff is the best thing we're going to get in Pakistan, and Sharon has fucked up alot but he doesn't target innocents like the extremists he get's demonized about by "progressives" for dealing with. He's been democratically elected by an educated, moderate populace. I'll be the first one to say Israel and the world would be a hell of alot better off without Likud in power(and preferably Shuini instead), but anti-Israel chic is really a blight to the modern left
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:40 AM
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5. Not a dictator
But Jonas Savimbi was a horrible man whose atrocities were funded by the US.


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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:42 AM
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6. He tried VERY hard to become one
And would be in the list and with a lot of votes had he succeded. But he didn't, and the world is a slightly better place because of that.

I ALMOST broke my own rules and included the guy. But I decided to stick to the definition.
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CabalBuster Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:03 AM
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25. I can't believe the Sharon apologists in this forum...really sad n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:04 PM
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28. I believe you meant that to be placed somewhere else in the thread? (nt)
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karnac Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:43 AM
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7. too constrained a list. Stalin was the worst
I would vote for Stalin. Dictator of the United Soviet SOCIALIST Republics otherwise. Maybe 20-50 million murdered.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:47 AM
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9. Read the criteria again (nt)
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karnac Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:55 AM
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12. I did, ergo the constrained comment.
for honesty.

Karnac
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:48 AM
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10. Or
United Soviet Socialist REPUBLICS
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:59 AM
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13. Chuckle . . . good one.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:00 AM
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14. Where's Hitler?
Prescott Bush helped bankroll the Third Reich in the 30's.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:05 AM
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16. well, that has nothing to do with the American govt
Roosevelt was very anti-Hitler
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:18 AM
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18. Good point.
Gotta go with Stalin, then.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:05 AM
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15. How's about Stalin?
he gets my vote
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:08 AM
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17. agreed, Stalin was the worst
n/t
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Go Eagles Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:02 PM
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27. Stalin was worse
but that was out of necessity to defeat Hitler. It wasn't too chummy before or after WWII. The Shah of Iran ranks and our relationship with him cost us greatly.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:19 AM
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19. You forgot Idi Amin
nt
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:21 AM
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20. Amin officially became a bad guy in 1972
By Carter's time, he was scum non grata.

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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:14 AM
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26. He was installed by Nixon, and propped up by the US...
Until he got too full of himself, his usefullness waned and he became an enemy.


just like another dictator we know.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:23 AM
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21. My choice
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Progressive420 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:26 AM
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22. You forget
Joseph Stalin
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:42 AM
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23. Stalin....not even worth discussing
Stalin killed at least 20 million of his own people. Of course, we needed to be in cahoots with him.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:47 AM
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24. Stalin -- hands down
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