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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:32 AM
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oneil, clarke, tenet
they were the ones talking. they are the ones that tried in their ways to get the job done.

at one point of tenet talking, the power to fire. and creating more disconnect instead of working together.

there was such a silent moment on what to do.............get a president that participates. we have allowed bush to not do any work in office and honor that. he doesnt work. f* this is so easy.

condi, ashcroft, bush didnt do their job, and cheney and rumsfield were creating their really retarded world ......

there is so much shit here. this is huge in history. rice's historical. it was/is all historical.

we are doing historical right now, and lookey it is present and future too.

this is going to be some amazing sh*t the next 6 months.

i.......have decided the end of apr, gonna turn off computer and news adn go to the mountains with my family.
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:38 AM
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1. In the Preface to Clarke's Book...
He says (and I'm paraphrasing),

The same names keep popping up over more than two decades, and that fact reflects the often unnoticed phenomenon that during the last five presidencies, many of the National Security mid-level managers have been constant, and when things worked it was because they were listened to...


pretty powerful I think
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:52 AM
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2. yup
and the difference being, again i say..........

clinton learned that and was doing. and tried to suggest it over to bush people

and bush people dont do it, lol to the point of wanting to seperate cia more,. ergo more challenge for flow, are these people stupid.

hm
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:58 AM
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3. Yes
The Bushies wanted to do the Opposite of what clinton did because they hated him so much...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:18 AM
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4. how they glorify bush in texas
he made lots of money and not have to work. and government, texas govt has less work than anywhere. there isnt a lot for him to do. someone else does the govt.

that is how he is working in the white house. and that doesnt work. besides someone with a c average........(really d-), proudly doesnt read, vacations a lot, even while on the time clock,
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