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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:34 AM
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Truthfully, Do You Think the Public Cares About Iraq Anymore???
..or shall I say, "care" in the way Bush wants them to care?? I believe that a growing number just want to get the hell out because of the money it's costing this nation while the "gung-ho's" have thrown their tattered flags and yellow ribbons in the corner of the garage--just can't get it "up" for Old Glory anymore. I think we are at a "no return" point in public opinion.

We have been on a patriotic jag since 9/11/01. Americans are 'over' the fad (sadly that's exactly how they view even the most serious things). But now it's gone from fad to "we don't like to watch failure". This isn't turning out to be a WWII movie. Regardless of the repuke uproar, it is indeed turning out like another bloody defeat called Viet Nam. The arrogant (we're #1!)people don't like to be stomped in front of the world who can now say "we told you so"! Thus, Bush is talking to the wall when he manipulates the media into giving him primetime air to sell the people on our 'resolve' in Iraq. They are not fired up about it anymore. It's at the 'no return' point for them. They are not standing around waiting for a firery speech from their great leader so that they can pick up the flag and wave it again. Nothing will kindle that passion again because they just don't care. They don't relate it to their own lives anymore; they don't care about the Iraqi people (actually never did) and they really want someone to rally the resources of the US government to help them and their economic situation. As Chris Matthews said this morning, "it may fire people up for 24 hours but the realities just creep back in and won't go away"----I disagree, Chris; I don't think it fired up anyone who has already thrown in the towel.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:39 AM
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1. i doubt most people remember we're in a war
This is like the war we fought while America slept. Only people paying attention are the families of the soldiers and the 10% who are tuned into the news all the time.

Everyone else is just living their own life trying to make ends meet.

War, what war?

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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:56 AM
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2. Magic Rat--that's why I think Bush is doomed on this issue
The only news they might pay a passing attention to is how we are getting stomped over there and when we change over the government, how we still have all our troops over there. There is nothing for them to get excited about and thus, adore George for. I think he's ridden this pony to death. People are not going to run to vote for his "resolve"---they kind of look at his 'resolve' as pig-headed blather that got us into this mess in the first place. Don't think war is going to do it for old George.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:58 AM
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3. you know, if you had to list all the words in the english language
That could be considered compliments. Resolved would probably not be very high on the list.

You could tell the Bush apologists were grasping at staws last night.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:59 AM
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4. The people remember the war. They do see the.....
Miserable Failure over there and it makes Bushlolini look bad. It's all his doing and the people will remember that!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:02 AM
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5. Comment last night.
I met a guy for the first time while having drinks at a neighbor's house.
I threw out a couple of "baits"..."dumbya"..."our fearless leader" and got no response from him either way.
Later the group's conversation turned to Iraq specifically.

He said, tongue-in-cheek (I think): "Why don't we just bring everyone home and nuke the place. We can drill through the glass to get the oil."

I think that is the sentiment of many Americans.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:04 AM
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6. I definitely think the public cares. The corporate media doesn't.
Bush wouldn't offer a 20-minute excuse on primetime television if he didn't know the public cares about the situation in Iraq.
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:17 AM
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7. Cat--I kinda think the opposite
I think he offered his 20 minute bullshit because he knows the public is wandering away and it's the only thing he has to run on----or at least it's the only thing he can run on if he can just convince them not to look too closely at the mess over there right now. He needs to wash their minds of that image and then have them focus on nothing but "war and terror" until the elections. He was on last night not just to erase the image of so many dead in such a short span of two weeks but to get the people all jazzed up on this issue again. But I don't think the people are capable any longer of getting jazzed up on the issue and that scares Bush a lot.
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