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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:54 AM
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Can someone explain this to me?
Quote from Bush last night. Did this make sense to anyone, or am I missing something?
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Maybe I can best put it this way, why I feel so strongly about this historic moment. I was having dinner with Prime Minister Koizumi, and we were talking about North Korea, about how we can work together to deal with the threat. The North Korea leader is a threat. And here are two friends now discussing what strategy to employ to prevent him from further developing and deploying a nuclear weapon. And it dawned on me that had we blown the peace in World War II, that perhaps this conversation would not have been taking place. It also dawned on me then that when we get it right in Iraq, at some point in time an American President will be sitting down with a duly-elected Iraqi leader talking about how to bring security to what has been a troubled part of the world.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 11:57 AM
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1. Yeah Rove/Bush/Cheney have been constantly comparing Iraq to WWII
IT IS SHAMEFULL!!!!!!!!
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:00 PM
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2. I think....
...and I emphasize I THINK that he was trying to say that if we'd lost WW2 "this conversation" would be taking place between the Germans and the Japanese, I guess...I think...I don't know. What the fuck does he EVER mean by anything.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:10 PM
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3. I think too...

I think skypilot is on target. BushCo has repeatedly compared post WWII Europe to what we're now doing in Iraq in an effort to indicate the necessity of maintaining a military presence and restructuring the conquered country. (Of course BushCo would never use the word "conquered.") He's trying to say that Iraq will one day be like Germany is today.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:21 PM
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4. Or is it that the U.S. today is what
Germany was like in the 30's? Kind of confusing, isn't it?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:21 PM
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5. I heard it and thought it was the usual ravings of the Idiot -in-thief,
and was waiting for him to say he and Koizumi, "looked deeply into each others eyes."

But, yes, it's probably more of his deluded idea that he is part of a historic moment in History and will be looked on like FDR was at some point in the future.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 12:39 PM
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6. The one thing NOT "dawning on him"...
...is what FDR did to "not blow the peace":

1) Work with your allies...
2) Get the best intelligence you can...
3) Pick your fights, so you can be sure of victory...
4) Plan for afterwards, and back it up. Iraq isn't exactly getting a Marshall Plan. Most of the money we're putting in there is flowing back to a few crony American corporations, not Iraqis....
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