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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:56 PM
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Conspiracy-theory, kook chat rooms like Democratic Underground
and MoveOn.org.

So his His Rotund Profundity Himself, God's Annointed Spokesman on Earth, the leading defender of Truth, Justice and the American Way, and Felonius Friend of Pharmacists Rush Limbaugh.

He was using the commissioner who questioned AshKKKroft about his traveling by government plane as an example of the Complete Control of the Democratic Party by the Loony Left. (Emphasis Rush's but approximated here by me).
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:59 PM
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1. I so regret that Rush was arrested
He'd probably have overdosed and died by now...oh well I can look on the bright side...he'll probably relapse or go on to something stronger.
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rangerfan Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:00 PM
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3. Don't think he was ever arrested.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:08 PM
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4. He's still a fatass hypocritical drug addict,
no?
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:59 PM
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2. Delay
The generic Oxy shipment must have been delayed...

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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:09 PM
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5. If Rush is screeching it, the Repubes are
worried about it. They are in full distraction, cover-up, stonewall mode right now. Notice all the trolls?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:20 PM
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6. The question was most likely asked at the behest of Lorie Van Auken
one of the 9-11 widows.

Remember, screwball Ashcroft answered that he did NOT fly a commercial plane on 9-11. He flew a Govt. plane.

Miss Armageddon Ashcroft , turdball whackjob that she is, rambled on about how his wife visited the home of the Third Reich some 5 months before 9-11 via a commercial flight, and how he now flies commercial.As if that were some kind of goddam proof.

ON 9-11 ASHCROFT AVOIDED COMMERCIAL FLIGHT.

Lorie Van Auken tells us that some Pentagon officials were also told to avoid flying commercially.

As for Plush Lintball and his concept of "loony", he can go bend over take it like a man from Ms. Coulter.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:40 PM
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9. Private jets are "commercial"
That is, you pay to fly. In Ashcroft's case, we pay. He mentioned the alternative as "military".

If he has his ticket stubs for seats in a commercial flight such as we would use, he should show them. Of course, they'd be First Class.

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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:20 PM
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17. I thought I heard him say government flights.......
anyway................
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:25 PM
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7. I heard this exact description of DU
at a democratic fundraiser in suburban Chester County PA. The place was packed with mainstream activist democrats (Dean, Bush, Kerry, Clarke supporters who were all going to support Kerry -- this was after Kerry clinched the nomnination). It was a gathering for Joe Hoeffel in his senate race against specter.

People were talking about websites and where to go for information on the net. Somebody asked about DU, and the answer was "oh I'm not into conspiracy theories." I gave them a piece of my mind, but didn't change any minds. Fark'em.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:42 PM
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10. Hmm, they must be a Rush fan.
Why the hell people continue to let screwjob, passive-aggresive Right-Wingers define the debate is beyond me.

It must be some kind of conspiracy.

:eyes:
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Aquarian_Conspirator Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:29 PM
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20. Yes, it's a conspiracy of voluntary liberal suicide.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:41 PM
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23. Poor whittle you,
having to put up with all the conspiracy thoerists that are causing your party to lose elctions.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:46 PM
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11. What we speculate on here......
is mainstream thinking 6-8 months later.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:57 PM
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13. I'm speculating on prison time for a quarter of the Bush maladmin.
so here's hoping, O&itW!
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 03:49 PM
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15. Precisely
Six months or a year ago, there was a lot of talk about foil helmets, etc. But, in reality, most of the posters here were not far off the truth.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:26 PM
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19. So who now thinks our resident conspiracy theorists are harmless?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:35 PM
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22. What is that sig line?
"One man's conspiracy theory is another man's business plan" ?

WHO is to decide what is "theory" and what is not?
Leave 'em alone.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:44 PM
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24. "our resident conspiracy theorists "
Now whom might those be.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:07 PM
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27. that's what ignore is for
that's what my ignore list is for, the tinfoil hat crowd. idiots all. But there's a LOT of useful info here that makes the DU the main liberal site I read.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:02 AM
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33. Harmless is the last thing I'd ever want to be.
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 02:03 AM by beam_me_up
Besides, the conspiracy KOOKS are those who, without having much, if any, evidence presented to them from sources independent of the US government itself, BELIEVE that Muslim fundamentalists under the direction of Osama bin Laden were capable of subverting our National Air Defense System for almost two full hours on a sunny September morning.

edit: fixed italics tag
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:35 PM
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8. Loony Left?

Loony Left? LOONY Left?
I'm not a man of pride, bereft,
My reputation has some heft!
Therefore I am the Looney Left!

Consider the heritage of the loon,
A bird of priv'lege, 'neath the moon.
Their cry presages freedom, soon!
I'm a southpaw, thus, a Lefty Loon!

Native Rights, we Zuñi Left!
Supporting NASA? Moony Left!
Music lovers? Tuney Left!
And PROUD to be the Loony Left!

If I'm a loony bird, so be it!
I see oppression, try to free it
If this is bad, well *I* can't see it!
Enough of *that* for Rush's Bull shee------!

If you're a Loon, stand up with me!
If you're a Leftie, Welcome, Thee!
We're all a grand Conspiracy!
We're LIBERAL and therefore FREE!

So much for Loony Left!


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:51 PM
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12. That was terrific. I'm assuming you wrote it just now.

Welcome to DU!
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:28 AM
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28. Why Thank You!


Yes, a newbie I am, but old to the net,
For when I began, we had Commodores, yet!
I hung out on Q-Link, (before AOL),
Made my bones in alt.tasteless that Usenetted Hell.

But all wise are foolish, I'm no exception
So perhaps y'all could point me in the direction
Of how to *start* threads, for that I don't know
And I've got an idea that really will grow!

A *new* name for chimpy, us lib'rals will use,
And yes, for the impious, the name will amuse!
It won't fit an answer, a new thread must be.
So advice will be welcomed by silly old me!

And thanks for attention, I'm really a ham!
I just want a mention. I don't give a damn
For Republican sinning, or crazed rightwing nuts.
So give me an inning, and I'll stomp on their butts!

Schwannzeichen


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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:41 AM
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30. You need a minimum number
of posts before you can start a thread. You're at 35 now, and that should be enough.

welcome to DU :hi:
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 03:46 PM
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14. That fabulous
I think every newbie should be required to memorize and recite that as a condition of getting out of the 700 Club!
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:36 AM
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29. I'm honored! :)

I do love this place, combatting 'Pub terror,
I long for the spirit of long-gone Tom Lehrer.
THERE was a man who knew how to zing!
I've got my git-fiddle, so Ready! Aim! SING!

Perhaps there's a slot on some left wing show
For a raddled old hipster, who's ready to blow!
Til then, I'm yours, so happily writing,
As long as you'll have me for conservative smiting.

Of course if a gig did ever drop by,
I'd not turn it down! almost FREE, I might fly!
I don't hunger for money, no, I'm after fame.
Or at least a wee smidgeon of public acclaim.


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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:15 PM
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16. Instapundit.com referred to DU as a "fringe group" recently, too.
It was in the context of a discussion of only expecting to see weird conspiracy theories on fringe group websites such as DU.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:24 PM
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18. Good !
As long as we are a "fringe group", we have a better chance to make a difference. We can continue to bring in fresh people with fresh ideas....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:41 AM
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31. It's a tactic - ignore them
They see one kooky thread here, and they feel free to dismiss all of it. So if someone posts a thread that Bush is a Reptilian Alien Controlled by Martians - and someone else posts that PNAC Signatories Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Feith & Wolfowitz Planned this Iraq Invasion Years Ago - both topics should be dismissed with equal derision. It's a very convenient attitude.
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:04 AM
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32. A few other non-political bloggers have been saying that, too.
Who cares, though? Instapundit sucks.

I don't consider myself a "tinfoiler" but you know what? I like reading those posts, anyway. They are interesting. And who am I to judge, anyway?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 05:34 PM
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21. I don't mind being a conspiracy theory kook
as long as it means I don't think attacking nation states and setting up military bases all over them enraging the world as we do it is actually a good and logical plan to stop terrorism.
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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:49 PM
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25. When do we get out "kook" number assigned?
I'll take number 666 if it's available.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 07:01 PM
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26. The Hillbilly Heron king talks about the loony left.
Wonder how high he was when he said it?

"My friends, let me tell you about the loony...(it is here where Rush Pillpopper goes into an oxyflashback and kinda zones for a few seconds)...left."

The real tragedy is that some would believe OxyRush over an honest Grassy Knoller.
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