Moussaoui Riddle Hangs Over 9/11 Hearings

By Deborah Charles
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Does accused Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui hold the key to what some have called the greatest intelligence failure in U.S. history?

That question has hung over two days of public testimony this week before the panel investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, hijacked airliner attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

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Tenet was asked on Wednesday if he had ever mentioned Moussaoui's arrest to President Bush.

He said he did not tell Bush or bring it to the attention of other senior officials. A report issued by the panel earlier said Tenet had said no connection between Moussaoui and al Qaeda was apparent to him before Sept. 11.

The British government also gave low priority to a U.S. request for information about Moussaoui before the hijackings.

But two days after the attacks, British officials found intelligence linking Moussaoui to an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan.

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more: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4830396&pageNumber=1

The big "IF"....if they had only followed up on Moussaoui...how many lives may have been saved. :(

From a previous testimony and memo from Agent Colleen Crowley, that Ashcroft knew about Moussaoui, and had refused to grant a FISA warrant to search his computer?

Argh, that fake commission makes me so mad! They seem so hellbent on ignoring the obvious!!!

They ARE hellbent on ignoring the obvious.

Low down dirty shame.

We're lucky they've exposed what little they have.

Take Gorelick, f'r instance. She seems innocent (and quite probably is, IMO) but she's tied to BCCI, Jackson Stephens, Mochtar Riady and the whole kit'n'kaboodle. We should remember that if petrodollars could grease the skids for Bush and the BFEE, they could also be greasing DEM wheels.

in the system. Coleen Rowley all but stood on her head trying to get a FISA warrant and was turned down.

5) The fact is that key FBIHQ personnel whose job it was to assist and coordinate with field division agents on terrorism investigations and the obtaining and use of FISA searches (and who theoretically were privy to many more sources of intelligence information than field division agents), continued to, almost inexplicably,5 throw up roadblocks and undermine Minneapolis' by-now desperate efforts to obtain a FISA search warrant, long after the French intelligence service provided its information and probable cause became clear. HQ personnel brought up almost ridiculous questions in their apparent efforts to undermine the probable cause.6 In all of their conversations and correspondence, HQ personnel never disclosed to the Minneapolis agents that the Phoenix Division had, only approximately three weeks earlier, warned of Al Qaeda operatives in flight schools seeking flight training for terrorist purposes!

Nor did FBIHQ personnel do much to disseminate the information about Moussaoui to other appropriate intelligence/law enforcement authorities. When, in a desperate 11th hour measure to bypass the FBIHQ roadblock, the Minneapolis Division undertook to directly notify the CIA's Counter Terrorist Center (CTC), FBIHQ personnel actually chastised the Minneapolis agents for making the direct notification without their approval!


More..

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

If the commission was a real one, they would ask: who are these key FBIHQ personnel who continued to throw up roadblocks and undermine the efforts to get a FISA warrant?

They are so busy saying they are not here to find fault with anyone, but to fix things!!! Can't they at least FIRE someone ? After all the economy is recovering so well, I'm sure they can find another job real fast...And if they were threatened by the commission, they might give the names of who above them told them to throw up roadblocks!
Oh, well, I guess that's why no one in the commission seems interested in finding out who they are.

AAAaaarrrgggghhhh !!!

Take this, with the evidence of Sibel Edmonds and fellow translators, Special Investigator Robert Wright and others, and the picture of the FBI that emerges is extremely disturbing, and strongly suggests that powerful forces within the agency abetted the attacks.

Any bets that that will be the conclusion of the commission?

Dave Frasca.

Coleen Rowley could have sought a normal criminal warrant, but didn't.

She was told not to seek a FISA warrant because FISA is for supsects taking orders from foreign governments. There was no evidence Mousaui was taking orders from a foreign government.

Rowley should have sought a normal criminal warrant.

Mousaui is foreign, but there isn't evidence he was taking orders from a foreign government.


That was the FISA requirement.

Rowley should have sought a nomal criminal warrant against Mousaui, but even if she did, she wouldn't have found anything to stop 9/11.

There was nothing on Mousaui's laptop about the 9/11 plot.

nt

The Minny FBI didn't want to have anything to do with Moussaoui, at first. Why?

Eagan flight trainer wouldn't let unease about Moussaoui rest

Greg Gordon, Star Tribune
December 21, 2001FLIT21

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- When a Twin Cities flight instructor phoned the FBI last August to alert the agency that a terrorist might be taking lessons to fly a jumbo jet, he did it in a dramatic way:
"Do you realize how serious this is?" the instructor asked an FBI agent. "This man wants training on a 747. A 747 fully loaded with fuel could be used as a weapon!"

The aviation student he was talking about was Zacarias Moussaoui, who was arrested the following day and last week was charged in a federal indictment with conspiring with Osama bin Laden and others to carry out the Sept. 11 attacks.

SNIP...

"From what I've heard, the school was clearly more alert than federal officials," Sabo said.

Oberstar said "alarm bells" should have gone off at the FAA when Pan Am reported Hanjour's limited English skills -- as least as far as his pilot's training went. He also said he had no major complaints about the FBI's Minneapolis office. But he added that the office's response to the Eagan flight instructor's calls was so "bureaucratic" that a less-determined tipster might have stopped calling.


CONTINUED...

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/913687.html

I don't think the Chimpster could withstand such an onslaught. :evilgrin:

:kick:

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nt