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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:30 AM
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Forget LIHOP and MIHOP. Worry about what Bush has done since 9/11
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/bw/20040415/bs_bw/nf200404150640db009

Blame Bush for What Came After 9/11

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So as the taxi whizzed past the new Time Warner Center, it was somewhat surreal about to spot Clarke standing on the corner with another man, laughing heartily. It's good that Richard Clarke can laugh once in a while because he has taken on the most serious of tasks: Calling to account a Presidency that failed in its vigilance but more important -- used the death of innocents to lead the country into a war it had been longing to wage. snip

TEAR DOWN THE CRITICS. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), the Clarke superior whom his book buries with faint praise, tried to make a cogent case before the September 11 commission on Apr. 8 that the newly arrived Bush Administration had done a reasonable job of pulling guard duty for the republic. All she really needed to say in her public testimony was: "We were new. We were inexperienced. We didn't have our eye on the ball. We're sorry." But she never did that, and what she did say was largely irrelevant and already forgotten. snip

The main aim of the Bush disinformation machine seems to be this: Tear down critics of America's preparedness before the attacks, and, above all, keep the discussions focused on September 11. Because no matter how much or how little you believe in the gospel according to Clarke, most reasonable Americans aren't going to blame the Bushies for failing to foresee and prevent the slaughter of civilians by a band of suicidal zealots.

The truly damning part about Against All Enemies, however, is what Clarke reveals about the Administration's mindset on Iraq. What George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz really have to answer for is the insidious way in which they used the Twin Tower horror to coax the country into supporting an attack on Iraq. snip

So to boil all this down, we went to war, sacrificed thousands of human lives, racked up billions in bills, and flouted the rules of international law for three basic reasons: Israel, oil, and the vengeance of a son whose father didn't finish off Saddam and then was targeted for assassination by the Iraqi Horror Show in 1993? When you think that Bill Clinton was impeached and almost tossed out of office for fooling around with a willing intern and then lying about it, his sins seem like very small potatoes. Very small potatoes indeed.

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:40 AM
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1. well it doesn't take a lot of proof
that's one advantage. It's all there for everyone to see.

It would be nice if people, including Al Franken, & other democrats, would admit that Bush* lied to get us into the war and a that a lot of people followed him like rats.

(It bothered me the other day hearing Franken saying to the ditto-head that Bush* didn't LIE to get us into the war. WTF. And how he'll say "to be fair"...blah, blah, blah... I say "why protect these people"?)
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:48 AM
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4. he said that, too?!
sheesh... i heard him trumpeting the status-quo line of 'we MUST win the war in IRAQ'

sheesh, and i know he's know DUMMY :evilgrin:

but, wtf is wrong with some of these 'limo libs' :shrug:

guess now we know why mike and werbe ain't invited to the party :argh:

otoh... maybe pete and mike malloy can start their own network :shrug:

i hope we aren't forced to wait for franken to get bored and 'move on' as their so fond of telling us =(

peace
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:40 AM
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2. "Never forget" means getting to the bottom of it.
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 10:41 AM by lostnfound
It's worthwhile and necessary to focus on both 9-11 and on what he has done since.

We can't leave the truth -- whatever it is -- behind in the ashes.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:42 AM
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3. it is really, TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD... they SEE HISTORICAL OPPROTUNITIES
TRIFECTAS, etc.

i remember right after 911 condi talking aout these opprotunities and i knew for certain we were gonna 'take out' iraq...

like clarke says we have been focused on iraq not just since 911 but from practically day 1, when sworn in waaaay back on jan 01.

they have been radical BEFORE 911 - it's what woke me up - and TYRANICAL since.

if we simply use the FACTS ON THE GROUND anyone can CLEARLY demonstrate that we are FAR WORSE OFF since the enactment of the BUSH DOCTRINE.

'you r either WITH US or AGAINST US.' :crazy:

i hope kerry sticks to his plan to OUTSOURCE to the IRAQI PEOPLE and the UN this ILLEGAL PREVENTIVE iraq INVASION/OCCUPATION.

kerry knows a thing or two about illegal wars and it shouldn't be hard for him to make a case not only against iraq but more importantly against the whole FAILED though still active and VERY DANGEROUS 'bush doctrine' of UNILATERAL - everything - and PREVENTIVE wars.

what a mess

peace
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:06 PM
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6. They even named one of the Rovers on Mars "Opportunity"
That word, used heavily by Condi and others, must hold a special meaning for them.

Are the deaths of 3,000 people seen as an "Opportunity" by others?


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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:09 AM
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5. Great Article - This is the way to campaign against bush
The key point is that many people aren't going to blame 9/11 on bush. We need to hit him on what he has done since, how invading Iraq has made the US and the world LESS safe instead of more safe.

I have some conservative friends who feel that there is no evidence that bush didn't do anything wrong before 9/11 and has done a good job since. We need to educate these people on how the Iraq war has been bad for the US from a national security as well as an economic standpoint.
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