Newsom faces wrath of God, fundamentalist leaders say

Poor Gavin. First he faces the wrath of Matt Gonzalez, now God... </sarcasm>

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/04/15/BAGGR65BUO1.DTL

Dozens of fundamentalist preachers from across California came to San Francisco City Hall on Wednesday and told Mayor Gavin Newsom to repent or face the wrath of God...

By issuing marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples, the pastors said, the mayor has violated state laws limiting marriage to heterosexual couples.

"More serious," their letter states, "is your brazen defiance of God's holy immutable law."...

And this differs from al-Sadr or the Taliban how, exactly?

"Anyone who speaks out against homosexuality is discriminated against. Churches are firebombed. It happens in San Francisco," said McIlhenny, who has battled the local gay rights movement for more than two decades.

No foolin', Rev. It happens in Honolulu, too. Oh, wait a minute, that was homophobes torching a church that had an openly gay pastor:

http://starbulletin.com/2003/08/28/news/story6.html

Honolulu fire investigators said a fire yesterday morning at a Makiki church headed by an openly gay pastor was intentionally set, which several civil rights groups called a hate crime.

So far as I can tell, no arrests have been made...

This is your brain. This is your brain on fundies. Any questions?

Edit: Spelled Gonzalez, plus this sad postscript: First Christian Church forced out pastor Vaughn Beckman after the arson (but not because he's gay, of course :puke: )

over gay marriage. In the vastness of the infinite universe, God is going to be trembling with rage over two men or two women getting married on this tiny speck of a planet. Yeah, sure, right.

Are these fundementalists the most ignorant creatures alive?

Terry

yes they are...

then the Fundies must be the happiest people on the planet :P

that just might remove a bit of their blissful ignorance (of course, they'd first have to learn to read above a kindergarten level, but that's an entirely different issue . . . ):

Ancient in origin, same-sex unions blessed in the Church occur quietly to this day. So says John Boswell, Professor of Medieval History at Yale University and the author of this new and lavishly publicized book. It may surprise readers of this journal to learn that he is probably right- depending on what the ceremony means.


He claims that the "brother/sister-making" rituals found in manuscripts and certain published works are ancient ceremonies whose cryptic (or, in current argot, "encoded") purpose has been to give ecclesiastical blessing to homosexual or lesbian relationships, thus making them actual nuptial ceremonies. This startling claim is certainly far from the reality of the ceremony in which we participated nine years ago. Is it perhaps just as far from the real meaning of such ceremonies in the distant past? According to his publisher, Boswell "irrefutably demonstrates that same-sex relationships have been sanctioned and even idealized in Western societies for over two thousand years." He has also "restored" a rite that could be used in contemporary homosexual marriages, should they become legal.

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9411/articles/darling.html

Why are they so anxious for the world to end?

We're inconsequential in the scheme of the universe and I too have a hard time believing the Creator (and I do believe there is one) getting upset about our homosexual bros. and sisters wanting to have the same rights every hetero couple has.

Mr. Newsom is charged with upholding civil law, not religious law.

And I will work until my last breath to make certain that those two forms of law stay separate.

it will never end.

... would The Creator be angry over two people loving and committing to each other or the slaughter of thousands of Iraqis and American troops due to the lies and arrogance of a few nasty men?


Hmmm, gosh...gotta think about that one...

can't God fight His own battles??? After all, He is God...if it really bothers Him, He can send a plague or some kind of natural disaster............He's done that before, if you believe the words of the Good Book

you win.

Its un- or peripherally- related to this subject thread, but last night I had CNBC on momentarily and some leader of a non-profit was talking about homosexuality and his son. He impressed on the viewers by raving on about how he loved his adopted son and so forth, saying that repeatedly. Sandwiched between those proclamations he explained that it was wrong of his son to use his name (presumably last name) in some publicity his son achieved and how same-gender sex was absolutely wrong, and so he had banished his adopted son from his home. Gee, I wonder who gave him that last name?

Essentially he said to all CNBC viewers, "I love my son so much I cast him out of my life." No wonder suicide is a concern. Since when does Love = Banishment?

This morning I tried to find an article about it, but no luck. Were any threads started here about it? I wanted to find out the name of the guy and his organization, I failed to write it down.

the anti-choice fanatics who stink-bomb clinics and the like.

There were several threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1412529

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1410558

for starters.

I just happened to see this post today in my daily perusal of blogs:
http://demagogue.blogspot.com/2004_04_11_demagogue_archive.html#108187174568791230

Not surprising that Terry wrote this awful garbage (he wrote a column about it) in the http://www.gorenfeld.net/moon/">Moonie Times (aka the Washington Times).

How do you explain the massive damage caused by the hurricane that hit VA Beach, VA (home of the Pat Robertson's empire) last year? I call THAT divine retribution!