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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:17 AM
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FINALLY, we are talking seriously about Impeachment
anytime impeaching bush is mentioned, 50 people jump in to tell you that it's a pointless waste of time. even though no president has ever been so qualified for removal as this one.

on the day Clinton took office, the nazis already had a huge list of things they'd try to impeach him on, and they finally got one. silly as it was. so where is the liberal democratic version of bob barr? we need someone with common sense and a sense of justice to go ahead and submit articles of impeachment against the whole bushco crew, not just monkeyboy himself.

it would not be a waste of time, and i believe that if NO ONE even bothers to bring up the obvious qualifiers for this man's impeachment, then we are simply derelict in our duty. you get the leaders you deserve. if we don't remove them through legal channels, they will give bush another 4 years with their legalities and frauds, like in 2000.

impeach his sorry ass, he deserves it, and we DON'T deserve leaders like him.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:20 AM
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1. If we "don't deserve leaders like him" then...
...why gurantee four more years of him by starting a circus?

We get to vote on the issue in just a few months. Starting impeachment now says "we don't think we can beat him".
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MichaelUK Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:25 AM
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5. True
From the outside looking in, Bush doesn't stand a chance at election.

That is unless he either
a) rigs the vote
b) drops a nuke on Baghdad ("I'm the CIC - do as I say in this holy war on terror etc")
c) has evidence that Kerry killed JFK, Elvis, is part of the area 51 cover up, is homosexual, and has regular sex with a donkey called Bob.

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Cursive_Knives512 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:49 AM
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13. Hey!
Leave Bob out of this!! :silly:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:29 AM
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8. Riiiight. Besides, impeachment is too good for him..
He deserves nothing less than treason charges.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:31 AM
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9. they used to hang traitors
and muderers. impeachment sadly isn't good enough for them
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:36 AM
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11. I'd rather go after him after he's out of office. Then he has no..
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 06:37 AM by Kahuna
protection from the repuke majorities in congress. Clinton was impeached and continued to serve. Impeachment is no punishment for this crowd unless they are thrown out of office. And, that would never happen. So why make a circus and risk everything just to embarrass the chimp? It doesn't make much sense to me.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:37 AM
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19. good point frodo, and another
point is that if we start now, we remind voters of the circus of the 90s.

Not a good idea right now.

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:22 AM
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2. It would take too long at this point
we'll remove him with our votes.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:24 AM
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4. 48 more naysayers to go........
like i said, there's always about 50 people who utterly poo poo the notion of removing a corrupt adminitrations, which is our constitutional right
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:26 AM
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6. I agree with poster number 1
why gain him sympathy and support from his religious zealot followers? We only have a few months to wait.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:31 AM
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10. You're absolutely right. If we overplay our hand like the repukes did..
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 06:33 AM by Kahuna
with Clinton, we will guarantee ourselves 4 more years of the chimperor.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:23 AM
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3. You would need
A centrist Congressman in a safe seat, and even then it wouldn't ever get a vote in the Judiciary Committee.

He can be impeached or term limited on Nov 2 if we raise the money, get the votors registered, and promote the Senate elections in the swing states.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:27 AM
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7. Henry B Gonzalez is trying to file articles of impeachment
from the beyond as we speak!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:43 AM
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12. I think, at the least, the public should be made aware...
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 07:05 AM by DeepModem Mom
of Woodward's clear-cut, easy-to-understand charge that Bush financed the start of the Iraqi operation, secretly and unconstitutionally, with funds earmarked for Afghanistan -- and that that is an impeachable offense. The press is not reporting the significance of this, so far, except through a "60 Minutes" statement by Woodward on the CBS website.

In my opinion, by Watergate standards (let alone Clinton standards!), the Bush cabal has committed many, many impeachable offenses, but this one is a clear and simple one. Let Bush, at least, in the eyes of some of the public, reap the political damage associated with committing an unconstitutional, impeachable act, whether Congressional action (unlikely) results or not.


(On edit: I do, however, like the sound of these words from mopaul: "impeach his sorry ass....")
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:59 AM
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14. for as much as Woodward is a whore
he did make the point in the interview, which
has not been really picked up by
most media yet, that Bush's funding
of Iraq with Afghan money was
illegal.
it will be interesting to see
whether more media pick up on this
after sunday nite.
woodward will also be on
hardball monday, I think..
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:10 AM
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15. I like what you are saying

Let's just keep putting it out there.
They know that they are guilty as sin.
They know that they are spending a majority of their time keeping their lies in order.

We have them in the right spot, let's just keep the spin going like they always do to us.
In the last election we played nice guy, not this time!

Impeachment is too good for them!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:26 AM
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17. This could land the bushies in jail.. After they are ousted...
This could be the most clear cut indictable charge that can be made against them.

If bush manages to steal this election, we can always scream impeach based upon this charge afterwards. For right now, we have an election to win. And going hyperbolic against bushco won't accomplish that.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:45 AM
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27. if your for impeachment sign the petition
nader has a petition going to present to the House
http://votenader.org/
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:23 AM
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16. An accummulation of charges so numerous, so definite, so immoral, so
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 07:25 AM by no_hypocrisy
treasonous will be needed. Not for * directly. For the Republic Congress to be compelled to impeach one of their one. That way their fear of "Joe Q. Public" (credit given to *) and retribution for NOT impeaching * is greater than whatever "loyalty" they still retain.

I'll start the list: embezzlement of funds that Congress allocated for Afghanistan that * used to start the invasion of Iraq.

Checkmate.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:29 AM
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18. Maybe we can convince Mr. "Integrity" <sic> John McCain..
to introduce the charges. After all, he's for truth, justice and the American way..... Right? </sarcasm>

The point is, unless we get a repuke to draft the impeachment it will be seen as partisan overreach on the part of the Dems.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 07:57 AM
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20. Impeach bu$h&co NOW!
We wait and we could find ourselves under martial law because the election did not go well for them.

The longer we wait, the more likely we have Civil War II here. Also do we have any more land marks we can afford to lose from "terrorists"? Just from the Pentagon alone I lean heavily toward MIHOP.

Get them out, the sooner the better.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:05 AM
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21. Impeachment is the only way to remove a president...
...so it's definitely not a 'circus'. Those who call it a circus have been brainwashed by the right into believing that only a majority can impeach. But the RWingers who brougtht impeachment against Clinton had to work for years before they mustered enough support for it...even in their own party.

- RWingers simply character assassinated Clinton/Gore and subjected them to a witch hunt until enough Americans and representatives wanted to see him 'burned' at the stake. Impeachment is about politics and passion...nothing more.
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pissedoff Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:29 AM
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22. Impeach!
Damn your avatar! It distracted me almost as much as the hypnotic (beginner's mistake) tie! lol!! I LOVE IT.

Aside from the fact that this asshole should've never gotten the job of Prez to begin with...

IMPEACH! I think he got a blowjob from Osama!!!! They sure do act like sweethearts!!!

George and Osama sitting in a tree...K-I-S-S-I-N-G. First comes terror, then comes opression, has little george even learned one lesson?

Anti-coffin Rally...memorial day...come on people
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:33 AM
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23. Come on folks....
It's not like Bush had sex with an intern or anything...

Geesh! Where are your priorities?

<sarcasm on>
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:35 AM
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24. The chances of THIS Congress impeaching Bush are about the same as...
the chances that it will snow in Hell on July 4th.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:36 AM
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25. i know...i'm ashamed of my revenge-monkey ass
that's all i can think about....revenge for Bill Clinton.
call me mo 'sour grapes' paul
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 08:40 AM
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26. I'm wary of impeachment
First off, not enough votes in Congress.

Second, do you really want Dick Cheney as your president?

I'm all for removing him in November, though.
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