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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:25 AM
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Brooks 4/17: in 20 years, no one will doubt that Bush did the right thing
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 10:47 AM by KleverKittie
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/17/opinion/17BROO.html

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Despite all this — and maybe it's pure defensiveness — I still believe that in 20 years, no one will doubt that Bush did the right thing. To his enormous credit, the president has been ruthlessly flexible over the past months and absolutely committed to seeing this through. He is acknowledging the need for more troops. He is absolutely right to embrace Lakhdar Brahimi's plan to dissolve the Governing Council and set up an interim government. This might take attention away from the U.S, and change the atmosphere in the country.

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gag, blech. think again, dave.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:30 AM
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1. "ruthlessly flexible" ???
What the hell kind of oxymorn is that? Has Bush* also been intelligently stupid while seriously smirking? Maybe he hopes to make Iraq violently peacefull. Does't anybody at the NYT respect the meaning of words anymore?
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:34 AM
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4. Democrats "flip flop"
Republicans are "ruthlessly flexible".
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:08 AM
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12. That one got me too! Wishy- washy??
These people are all completely insane.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:13 AM
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14. The neocons must have put some muscle on the NY Times
Their spokesman Brooks is allowed to say whatever the hell he wants with no regard for truth or grammar.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:32 AM
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2. I have no doubt that in 20 years
bush/cheney will be in prison for war crimes
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:34 AM
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3. I hope your right about the prison and war crimes
n/t
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:34 AM
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5. 20 Years On
First we have to be here in 20 years...

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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:35 AM
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6. In 20 years...
his picture will be next to the newly added word: "Moran" Def. a person that commits stupidity of epic proportions.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:43 AM
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9. I think they will revise and whitewash history for the shrub
the same way they are doing now for Reagan.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 12:08 PM
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20. We were warned Aug. 2, 1920 in 'Lawrence of Arabia's' Mesopotamia report
"The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiques are belated, insincere, incomplete. Things have been far worse than we have been told, our administration more bloody and inefficient than the public knows. It is a disgrace to our imperial record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure. We are to-day not far from a disaster.

>snip<

We have not reached the limit of our military commitments. Four weeks ago the staff in Mesopotamia drew up a memorandum asking for four more divisions.


>snip<

How long will we permit millions of pounds, thousands of Imperial troops, and tens of thousands of Arabs to be sacrificed on behalf of colonial administration which can benefit nobody but its administrators?"


source-
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/lawrence.php
(The 'Lawrence of Arabia Report')
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:37 AM
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7. How can the NYT have this guy on board? He is not even a good writer.n/t
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:42 AM
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8. what an arrogant SOB
lets see blame the Iraqi (notice it is the Iraqi's now, not just a small bunch of thugs), suddenly there is also nationalism going on (which means uprising), and even though we performed all these unethical act..bushco neocon illusions of morality justify him in the long term.

that's right..all the evil justifies the greater good. That is the insane logic these people are using to justify their actions. This filters all the way down to execution as it is the fundamental anchor of Bushco's policy.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:46 AM
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10. I simply don't read Brooks...it's so biased it's sickening. n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:47 AM
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11. If in 20 years from now nobody will doubt this
that means to me that nobody will be around to doubt anything.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:08 AM
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13. One of my favorite anti-war songs
One hundred years from this day will the people still feel this way
Still say the things that they're saying right now
Everyone said I'd hurt you they said that I'd desert you
If I go away you know I'm gonna get back some how
Nobody knows what kind of trouble we're in
Nobody seems to think it'll all might happen again

One hundred years from this time will anybody change their minds
But people are always talking
You know they're always talking
Everybody's so wrong that I know it's gonna work out fine
Nobody knows what kind of trouble we're in
Nobody seems to think it'll all might happen again

Gram Parson - The Byrds

In 20 years I'm thinking that us unpatriotic leftists will be seen as correct, just as Gram was prophetic about those who dodged the draft for Vietnam as contentious objectors or movers to Canada - not like the Cheney's - who had different priorities.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:17 AM
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15. "...and maybe it's pure defensiveness"
Gee! Ya think?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:25 AM
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16. The egotistical arrogance of Brooks and his ilk to say
"We hawks were wrong about many things. But in opening up the possibility for a slow trudge toward democracy, we were still right about the big thing.".....
Who decreed that "we hawks" have the right to decide the political fate of Iraq or any other country, for that matter....When I see Bush and people like Brooks assuming they have the right and even duty to "democratize" the mid east, I'm appalled at their presumption....And now they have decided it's time to bring the rest of the world (who opposed the war) in to share the burden.
I can only speak for myself as a Canadian, but much as my heart aches for the young American soldiers who are dying, I don't want our young people sent over to be picked off like sitting ducks....
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:37 AM
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18. If the Middle East was truly democratized like the neocons
want, it would resemble many Irans, theocratic,anti-western,
anti-Israel.Is that what these people want? I doubt it.

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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 02:05 PM
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21. He forgot "chicken" in front of "hawk" nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:31 AM
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17. Hitler's toadies said the same in 1935.
... and the Imperial Japanese had the rallying cry of "Ten Thousand Years!" (i.e. Banzai!)

Such is the delusional fascist dream of empire and totalitarianism,
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:50 AM
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19. Brooks thinks we are trudging towards democracy
Looks like a U.S. imposed monarchy to me. :shrug:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 02:25 PM
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22. somebody needs to retire....
:eyes:
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