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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:27 AM
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Anybody see Bill Schneider on CNN tonight?
They gave him the stage regarding what Woodward has said, and I was expecting the usual CNN Bush-can-do-no-wrong spin, and instead he just sorta went off on how incredibly bad it was for *, basically repeating what Woodward charged etc. etc.

I was pretty shocked.

I missed the 60 minutes interview, so I had no idea what was said on it, but to see CNN, and a PNACer like Schneider basically telling the world that Bush is in deep deep doo-doo, I thought "damn, something has changed in the last 24 hours".

Anybody else see this?
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DaisyUCSB Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:34 AM
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1. PNAC is thrown around alot here. Do you have any evidence he's actually
a member? Or even connected tangibally. I know he's an AEI senior fellow, and therefor very likely not close to many peoples politics here, however he's actually not nearly as bad an anylist bias wise as his colleagues Woodruff, Candy Crowley, and Paula Zahn. His analysis is usually pretty unslanted.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:35 AM
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3. Unslanted? Are you kidding?


You do watch the same CNN, right?

This is the guy that compared Democrat contenders to a fucking DOGSHOW for Christ sakes...
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:50 AM
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9. How about this?
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 02:58 AM by atre
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Notice a name on that list?

- Nevermind - That appears to be another William Schneider.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:53 AM
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12. Their is a William Schneider, Jr
connected to PNAC, but if you look at his picture, it's definitely not CNN's Bill Schneider.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:34 AM
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2. Saw it...

He bascially just repeated what Woodward said, word for word..

I don't remember him comparing Bush to a dog show. Im sure he has that fine piece of journalism coming up though..(referring to the piece he did comparing democratic contenders to dogs in a dog show)
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:47 AM
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4. I heard William Kristol on the radio questioning how "engaged" Junior is
He was literally questioning whether Bush was paying adequate attention to what's going on. This from the literal Godfather of the PNAC himself; I almost fainted.

Things aren't going well in conquestland.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:57 AM
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5. He left his grand plans to be carried out by an idiot.
This sort of thing is very delicate and very risky. I frankly think it was impossible, but if it was possible, it needed someone very skilled, knowledgable, and lucky.

Unfortunately for him and us, he got George W. Bush, idiot.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:58 AM
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6. I know people will slam me for saying this...
...but even Fox has been unusually critical of the President of late.

Not to suggest that they are suddenly becoming "Fair and Balanced," but it is interesting to see even the slightest shift in tone from Fox.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:40 AM
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7. Hey, they know what the bottom line is.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 02:48 AM
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8. This is why I disagree with DUers slamming Woodward --
he doesn't go far enough in the book for us here, but the book is damaging, and he's getting huge mainstream coverage, with his credibility unquestioned.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:58 AM
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13. I watched 60 Minutes before my husband did
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 04:59 AM by janeaustin
and I found some of the points more shocking than the ones that had been previewed.

Dearest Husband watched the TiVo of it later and pronounced it "chilling."

I thought I might have been exaggerating my dismay, but I guess not.


(edited for typo)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:30 AM
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10. there are two Wm Schneiders
One is affiliated with PNAC.

The other works for CNN.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:44 AM
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11. The CNN one has been associated with the Repugs and
Conservatives for many years...

It ticked me off to no end when he became the MAIN political commentator for CNN.

CNN basically gave up on balance.

If Schneider is saying that about Woodward's book, you can multiply the damage *2.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:51 AM
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14. They are the SAME one..
His is also a bigwig at the AEI..
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:05 AM
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15. (Bill) William Schneider is a Shill for the right wing think tank AEI
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 06:07 AM by trumad
http://www.aei.org/scholars/scholarID.53,filter.all/scholar.asp


William Schneider, Jr is a differnet shill for the PNAC

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/schneiderjr/schneiderjr.php

But who gives a shit if it's the PNAC or the AEI... The supposed un-biased CNN Poll analyst certainly is biased towards the Right Wing as witnessed by his association with the AEI.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:27 AM
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17. Thanks
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:08 PM
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21. Thanks.
Now people can move on with their lives. You just totally blew up one of DU's bigger urban myths. Congrats.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:12 AM
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16. Remember, Bush has served his purpose for PNAC now he is an
embarrassment and screwing up their agenda with his ego-mania. They have carefully crafted these attacks to make it appear that there are just Bush-haters attacking him and the 'liberal media.' They are shrewd and they know that most Americans are just plain self-centered, racists, and stupid. Otherwise, we wouldn't be where we are right now.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:33 AM
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18. Schneider is AEI, though, right?
I believe the CNN Schneider is part of the conservative think-tank American Enterprise Institute... no?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 07:38 AM
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19. see post 15
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:54 PM
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20. kick
to explain the two Schneiders
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