MSNBC- Pentagon Revises Iraq dead Figure down to 509

JCMach1

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:40 PM
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MSNBC- Pentagon Revises Iraq dead Figure down to 509

:wtf:

I just heard this. They glossed over it as if it weren't a big deal...

Will the people buy this?

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KissMyAsscroft

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:40 PM
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1. WHAT?!!!!!

You have got to be kidding me.

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rockymountaindem

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:41 PM
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2. I think that would be what happens

when they remove the number of people killed in accidents and by suicide.

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KissMyAsscroft

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:43 PM
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8. That number already accounts for those people..

That number is troops killed in "hostile action"..

And even then, they have to die on the battlefield to be included in that number. If they get shot and die in the helicopter while receiving treatment, they aren't included on the list.

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JCMach1

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:45 PM
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10. The change is that THIS is the number THEY are reporting now

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leanings

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:40 PM
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29. Not so.

Even if they make it back Stateside and die of wounds, they're still listed as KIA. I believe lunaville has several listed like this, and if not you can check the DoD press releases.

That's an old Vietnam rumor.

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saigon68

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Mon Apr-19-04 10:30 PM
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43. Not true

The DOD is playing fast and loose with the numbers, if it wasn't for lunaville they wouldn't release SQUAT

Like Dip Shit Franks said--- "body counts??? We DON'T DO BODYCOUNTS"

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CO Liberal

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:41 PM
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3. "I'm Not Quite Dead Yet"

Sounds like something out of Monty Python......

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Poiuyt

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:22 PM
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20. "I'm feeling better!"

"Think I'll go for a walk."

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fryguy

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:43 PM
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32. "You're not fooling anyone...."

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Selwynn

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Mon Apr-19-04 11:30 PM
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45. "I think I'll go for a walk"

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aquart

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:41 PM
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4. Almost 200 are alive and going home to their families?

What is this?

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htuttle

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:42 PM
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5. THEY'RE ALIVE!

Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 12:45 PM by htuttle

Poindexter's experiments over at DARPA have been a success!

:eyes:

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grasswire

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:42 PM
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6. stalinism

we're living in the gulag, apparently

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tom_paine

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:22 PM
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22. Yep. Soviet Pravda

600 "qajdusted down" to 500, with 1000s dead of battlefield injuries uncounted and of course, our brave Mecenary Hessians getting whacked doesn;t count.

This is a bald-faced, odious, and Soviet-style lie.

Although, wew should be used to that by now from the Imperials.

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JCMach1

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:43 PM
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7. Remember, they have been the ones reporting the numbers

I am afraid we are back to Bush math.

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BlueEyedSon

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:44 PM
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9. Link Please?

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JCMach1

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:45 PM
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12. live darn it... I am looking for one.

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BOSSHOG

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:45 PM
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11. In late October, they'll downsize the number to 1,500

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DaveSZ

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:46 PM
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15. I don't see a link

on MSNBC...

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0007

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:27 PM
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24. Far right hand side

they are sometimes hard to find.

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Minstrel Boy

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:46 PM
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13. Let them keep it up. Pretty soon, none of this will have happened.

When everything's hopeless, maybe the best we can hope for is denial.

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bigtree

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:46 PM
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14. Bastards

Iraqi Casualties: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
map: http://www.mapbureau.com/usersites/donalda.iraqbodycount/

CNN Casualty Report:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/index.html

Iraq Coalition Casualty Count
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

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TacticalPeek

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Mon Apr-19-04 12:48 PM
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16. I noticed in the last few days, some news readers

seem to be reporting KIA since "the end of major operations" as some 500+.

Of course, truth and accuracy, indeed history itself hold little relevance for aWol, since, as he says "We'll all be dead anyway".

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mainer

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:45 PM
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33. Actual total dead in April: 114. Check this site.

And total dead in the war so far: 721.

Get their names and circumstances of death here. It includes those soldiers who die of all causes in Iraq (accidents as well as hostile action deaths.) It also includes those who die of earlier injuries. I find this the most comprehensive site for the numbers.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties_apr04.htm

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jackstraw45

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:11 PM
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17. I saw that too...

SO f-ing misleading and insulting to the sacrifices of those killed.

Media whores never fail to amaze in doing their bidding for their corporate media bosses.

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Karenina

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:15 PM
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18. Lots of "disappeared" wounded too...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1437081

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Jacobin

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:18 PM
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19. The "non-persons" have been "re-personed"?

How Orwellian.

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Hav

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:22 PM
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21. .

If they continue like that, we will be at 0 casualties in November.

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comsymp

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:25 PM
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23. Belated Happy Easter! Exactly HOW MANY new faces

did they discover on the Shroud of Turin?

(disturbing mental image of St. Dumbya cruising Walter Reed saying "Rise up and walk")

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LittleApple81

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:33 PM
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25. Question: don't they have the actual NAMES of the people killed?

I have seen George Stephanopolous in his in memoriam segment listing the names and whenever possible the pictures of the KIA.

So, how are the American people going to get REALITY in this administration?

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fryguy

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:47 PM
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35. A communication network costing billions of dollars

and no one in the Pentagon can seem to locate http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx on the internet....wonderful!

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jackstraw45

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:35 PM
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26. Call GE and ask where the 200 dead soldiers went...

General Electric Company
Phone: 203-373-2211
Toll Free: 800-626-2004 (press zero for operator)

Ask for Jeffrey R. Immelt, the CEO, who is a Bush donor.

Ask how 200 American soldiers killed in Iraq suddenly don't count to MSNBC.

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Cat Atomic

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:37 PM
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27. I hope Comrade Ogilve has been reanimated.

He was always so patriotic.

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NewsTalk

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:38 PM
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28. Are we sure this refers to military dead?

This could be a reference to the figure of 700 civilians killed in Fallujah, and perhaps that's being revised downward to 500 or so. That might be explainable and understandable, given the difficulty of getting an exact count of civilian dead in a chaotic area like Fallujah.

It would not seem possible to make such a revision in the well-documented area of military KIAs.

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fryguy

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:43 PM
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30. they should be INCREASING the number

to account for all the "private contractors" who have been killed in the area and not just those who currently belong to the armed forces....

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Poiuyt

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:43 PM
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31. Who DOESN'T the Pentagon consider dead?

I heard that they only count soldiers who actually die in Iraq. If they've been medi-vaced to Germany or back to the States and THEN die, they don't count in the tally.

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Bluebear

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Mon Apr-19-04 01:46 PM
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34. The "Bush math"? Faith healings?

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TacticalPeek

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Mon Apr-19-04 02:30 PM
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36. Remember aWol's edict: "No more casualties after March".

Someone slipped up and kept counting during April. This would just be a corrective action to bring official reality into compliance with chickenhawk fantasies.

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robbedvoter

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Mon Apr-19-04 02:54 PM
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39. Some of them were not US citizens maybe? Minorities?

because i don't think they brought them back to life.

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Mon Apr-19-04 02:40 PM
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37. Send the Globa Security link to MSNBC

and ask them to identify which 210 of the 719 soldiers listed there are actually living.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties_apr04.htm

It's funny how you can play around with numbers... until you actually start associating names with those numbers.

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mmonk

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Mon Apr-19-04 02:48 PM
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38. Can we call the 200 or so that are now alive and congratulate them?

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THUNDER HANDS

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Mon Apr-19-04 02:58 PM
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40. you know if the keep this up long enough

I bet some female soldiers will actually be giving birth on the battlefield.

"In todays news, the body count in Iraq has grown to +34 soldiers with the birth of little Timmy McNulty..."

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SoCalDem

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Mon Apr-19-04 03:01 PM
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41. Well it IS the "Easter Season".. Resurrections are the norm..

Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 03:02 PM by SoCalDem

I bet those families of the "non-dead" will be relieved to know that another Bush Miracle has happened, and their son/father/daughter/Mom are no longer dead ..:eyes:

Was that statement issued by Monty Python?? It has the earmarks of the parrot sketch..

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spinbaby

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Mon Apr-19-04 04:09 PM
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42. Is there a link yet

Or was it just something they said on the air?

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seabeyond

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Mon Apr-19-04 11:24 PM
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44. my husband thinks it is

the figure of the people in accidental deaths. like a humvee turns over and people die. he read there was 196 something deaths by accidents.......non combat deaths

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boobooday

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Mon Apr-19-04 11:33 PM
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46. If only it were that easy

To just erase the lives they have spent.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

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