A question to pose to Bush supporters...

This has been stewing around in my brain for awhile. I was thinking about the Impeachment and how the Republicans kept hammering at Democrats who continued to support Clinton. How could we continue to support Clinton after he lied?

I was pissed at Clinton because I felt he should have known better than to give the Right Wing any ammunition when he knew they had been gunning for him for years. That said, I didn't want to see him lose his job over what was essentially a personal matter. Yeah he lied, but the sense of proportionality regarding that lied seemed way overblown.

So now we have all the Republicans who were so outraged over Clinton's lie falling all over themselves to defend the Chimp. I can understand their need to defend one of their own but at what point does this become a question of diminishing returns?

How much longer, how many more allegations before some of them get that this will ultimately hurt the Republican Party in the long run, just like Watergate did years ago?

Some of these guys have got to be getting nervous. George is out of control and it's not good for the country and it's not good for the Party. When will it be time to stand up for what is good for the country and not just good for the President?

The Democrats didn't bring about the resignation of Nixon all by themselves. There were Republicans who saw the writing on the wall and knew the time had come to do what was right. Who will be the first Republican to stand up for what is right? Perhaps one of the 10 who voted against conviction following the Impeachment Trial?

MzPip
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stayed on during the Clinton administration, he's being labeled a Clintonista. Go figure.

About all I can muster when talking to people who support Bush is: why do choose to be an asshole?

Not the best campaigner in the world... I realize.

these right-wingers still talk about how great it is to have a president who bring honor back to the White House. They don't think he lied. They think the media is playing word games and twisting his words around. Its freaking unbelievable, and more than a little scary.

bring back the blow jobs, please. At least no one died because of them.

I can only hope that the entire Republican Party is not suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Good grief, I was a young Democrat during the Vietnam War and stomped and yelled about Johnson. I was thrilled when he said he wouldn't run again.

This kind of subterfuge should be outrageous regardless of party line.

MzPip
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these right-wingers still talk about how great it is to have a president who bring honor back to the White House.

You don't understand because your idea of honor is different from theirs.

As long as george doesn't get a hummer in the O.O. from someone other than laura, he's an honorable man.

The question you should be asking is if Clinton's anti-terror programs were all wrong, why did the current administration continue to use them for damn near two years?

The answer is simple -- the anti-terror plans were solid. The politics were bad and if the president had been calling the shots we wouldn't have had planes fly into buildings. The republicans have been using Clinton for all that has gone wrong in the world and most of America buys into it - mostly because rebuffing these points don't fit nicely into the crawler at the bottom of your TV.

My guess is that if you ask this question, cognitive dissonance sets in and your favorite republican will remind you no planes have been flown into buildings since 9-11. Apparently this is their fall back position and shows how wrong Clinton's plans were.

Glad to have you aboard!:bounce: :hi: :bounce:

My guess is that if you ask this question, cognitive dissonance sets in and your favorite republican will remind you
no planes have been flown into buildings since 9-11.

Sure, and no planes were flown into buildings in the US for two hundred plus years before that either. When we've had two hundred plus years of no planes into buildings, then we can start to feel good about ourselves. Three years is far, far too soon to start with feeling smug.

(Come to think of it, have planes been deliberately flown into buildings anywhere, at any time in history before this?)

What these nut-jobs are going to say is

"But 911 changed every thing and we need to support the president"

With what is coming out now, how can repubes say that what Clinton lied about is any worse than what Bush has been lying about? It's ludicrous. Who cares who Clinton had sex with or sexual relations or whatever you want to call it? Good ole Ken Star spent millions on a witch-hunt to force a president to lie about a sex act. Oh boy, I feel better now. (sarcasm) But Bush goes about is secret war planning fabricating WMDs and such and no one says anything and Clinton is still ridiculed. It's crap. Nothing more, nothing less.

... having sex with someone who is not your spouse is a far greater sin than slaughtering thousands of innocent people. Having sex is probably the greatest sin of all to them, especially since it's so much fun.

and have brown skin. Republicans are having a field day with that one. If you don't have white skin and a cross around your neck, you're just cannon fodder to a repuke. They love the fact that we're killing "camel-jockeys, towel-heads, and sand-ni**ers." Yep, honor and integrity, all right. :mad::grr:

which makes them such hypocrites. Remember Packwood. Eisenhower was known for his mistresses. I think it was his secretary. The list could go on.