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Coyul Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:45 PM
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Who is your favorite Conservative?
Now I was just thinking about this, this morning and you know I kinda think it is a tie between George Will and Pat Buchanon. They are Conservatives, but not necessarily Repukelicans, and I can forgive some things when they, at least, stray from the party line. What say all of you?

BTW Purji and I should be back online regualrly next week, so try to keep the subject alive for awhile....thanks!
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:48 PM
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1. George Will?
You must be joking. The guy wears a bow tie and has a stick a foot and a half up his butt. Every third column is a backhanded racist attack.

No, I gotta go with Buckley senior.
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zoidberg Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:19 PM
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50. Example of racism?
I usually read his columns and can't recall a single one that I would call racist. Perhaps you would be willing to point one out to me.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:49 PM
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2. All repugs are greedy and evil,the lesser of the evil ones
Pat"the thug"Buchanon
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:57 PM
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5. Buchanan is a walking talking
piece of garbage. He's the same guy who, at the 1992 republican convention waved a gun above his head and hammered illegal immigrants, AIDS sufferers, Homosexuals, and most other minorities. It is my belief that he, in part, caused George Bush ,Sr. to be beaten. Now that wasn't a bad thing, but Buchanan left the republican party because they weren't conservative enough for him. That's ridiculous.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:53 PM
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3. he gave a 45 minute speech when he left office, warning of the dangers
of cooperations and the military industrial complex.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:55 PM
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4. Kevin Phillips
His last two books were pretty good
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 05:57 PM
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6. Ann Coulter
Because she shows people what conservatives are really like.
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greenwow Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:00 PM
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7. My favorite ones are dead ones (ntxt)
.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:27 PM
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:18 AM
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25. Breaking News for Keith O
Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt are actually DEAD!!
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:24 AM
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28. Teddy Roosevelt was who came to my mind n/t
.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:00 PM
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8. novacula
he will often cut through the bs and take a critical look at some repuke matters. he is more loyal to his personal ideology than to any political party.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:05 PM
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9. Joe Lieberman
I'd NEVER vote for a conservative though.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:33 AM
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41. Yeah, Joe's my favorite conservative
if he's gets the nomination, which I hope he won't, I'll vote for him against Bush. That's the only scenario where I'll vote for him.
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_Wayne_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:07 PM
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10. George Will is a giant jackass
William Buckley is my favorite conservative- great writer.
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 08:31 PM
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11. Storm Thurmond
Dead conservatives do no damage.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:31 PM
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12. PJ O'Rourke
At least he's funny. Sometimes.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:35 PM
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13. Tie between Lieberman, Buchanon and McCain (n/t)
Edited on Sun Aug-03-03 10:40 PM by w4rma
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:46 PM
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14. Connie Morella
Does she count?
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 03:46 PM
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15. R-Ratliff from Texas
who stood with the Democrats against his own party -
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 07:38 PM
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16. My favorite conservative is Howard Dean
You have to draw a distinction between Republican and Conservative in todays political climate. Shrub and his neocon posse could hardly be called Conservative. This was originally meant to be a fiscal philosophy (balanced-budget, no debt, small gov.). I have often called myself a fiscal conservative and a social Democrat.
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PeakOil2008 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:50 PM
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19. I agree.
Buchanan as I've previously stated here is the Classic type of conservative who isn't afraid to debate from a fairly intelligent, reasoned approach. His type actually still believe in their dogma strongly enough to generally avoid outright ad hominem attacks upon their opponents. He's still a bigot and a homophobe, but I can't help but feel a tad bit more respect for him than I hold for the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Ann "McCarthy" Coulter, the "Neo-Conservative" types who will spew forth pure, raw verbal sewage about the opposition if it gets them the attention and the media edge that they're looking for.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:52 AM
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32. I don't agree with much of what he says..but
he has good manners.

He seems open to debate and usually doesn't get into a shouting match. I appreciate his civil tone.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:29 AM
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39. He is the main reason I even watch "The McLaughlin Group."
He has more sense in his little finger now than * has had in his whole body his entire life.

As we watched "McLaughlin" a couple of Sundays ago, I had to explain to my brother the difference between Buchanan and the neocons. (And Bay, Pat's sister, was absolutely hilarious on "Real Time" two Fridays ago.)
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 11:13 PM
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20. 'Nother GD thread in Editorials? How come?
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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 11:22 PM
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21. I realize this is a judgement call but aren't the words.....
...."Favorite" and "Conservative" in the same sentence an oxymoron??
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:54 AM
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22. Pat Buchanan fills that bill, 'eh?
Well, what can ya say, other than you have a point!!
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CitizenDick Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 08:32 AM
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23. Bob Dole
Funny guy, doesn't seem to carry the venom most do. Bob Novak often strays from the party line and reports critically on Repugs.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:34 AM
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43. I'll second Bob Dole
He hates the neo cons, and since he has retired he has become rather good natured.
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streakr Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 08:43 AM
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24. Here's another vote for John McCain N/T
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:20 AM
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26. Barry Goldwater
Edited on Tue Aug-05-03 10:21 AM by sujan
Goldwater over Bush, anyday.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:36 AM
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29. Another Vote for Barry
At least he knew how to think, unlike so many present-day conservatives.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:39 AM
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30. he was the real deal
Edited on Tue Aug-05-03 10:39 AM by sujan
unlike the neo fascists in 'conservative' attire.

I especially applaud him for his fight against the Religious unright.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:41 AM
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45. Back when Conservatives weren't fundamentalists
Doubt I would have voted for Barry. But he's the voice of reason compared to the Taliban Republicans of today. The "old guard" was a classier crowd.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:21 AM
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27. Gerald Ford
If you can even call him a conservative in this day and age. These days he'd probably be to the left of half the Dems.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:40 AM
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31. Bill Clinton
At least the flack over his blowjob kept the Republicans too busy to screw up the economy.
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:55 AM
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33. Strom Thurmond
Because he is decomposing.

Of the live ones, I'd have to say... Barry Goldwa- oh, he's dead too?


Um, no, I guess that means I hate them all now. They're evil thugs to a man.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:56 AM
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34. Howard Dean
;)
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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:57 AM
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35. my Dad
of course
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:57 AM
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36. Buchanan, McCain, Tucker Carlson
Buchanan for the reasons others have listed. 90% of his positions are awful, but on the other 10% he brings up valid and neglected points. He talked about the continuing drain of U.S. jobs and workers' desperation in the 80's when other politician would.

McCain because I could/can imagine him being a president we could be proud of, had 'the fix not been in' in 2000. (this phrase taken from a Buchanan quote during the campaign run-up . At the time I thought B. was just talking about the Repub. primary process. Now I wonder if he knew something more....)

Tucker Carlson just because he's even-tempered and funny.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:02 AM
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37. Bob Barr
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:44 AM
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46. ???
Because of his support for personal liberties, I hope. And not his relentless efforts against Bill Clinton. I'm a Georgian. Bob was/is an embarrassment.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:18 AM
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38. The ones in the cold, cold ground...
Edited on Tue Aug-05-03 11:19 AM by mitchum
and no longer making mischief
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:31 AM
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40. Pat Buchanan
I don't agree with much of what he says, but he's always a gentleman with his guests and doesn't resort to tireless rhetoric like a lot of the right.
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:33 AM
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42. You might want to throw in RINO Congressman Ron Paul.
He is actually a Libertarian, and he has been a most outspoken voice against the BFEE.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:34 AM
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44. Buchanan is not a Republican and I like any Conservative
Edited on Tue Aug-05-03 11:34 AM by gully
who can sifen votes from Shrub.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:47 AM
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47. McCain. If he switched parties, and became pro-choice, I
might consider giving him my support.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:52 AM
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48. Christopher Buckley - William's son.
Conservative, but very funny.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 11:58 AM
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49. Norah O'Donnell
Yum :evilgrin:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:30 PM
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51. Amo Houghton (R-NY) and Richard Lugar (R-IN)
That's Lugar as in Nunn-Lugar program. Besides, now that Senator Lugar chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, we don't have to shrivel up with shame the way we did when the completely infernal Jesse Helms held court.

Amo Houghton, for all that he's a wealthy man, voted against the repeal of the estate tax. He's also known for being one of the politest, nicest people on the Hill.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:36 PM
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52. Alan Keyes
Can't explain it, really, but I like the guy.
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