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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:00 PM
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Why are we not supposed to see the dead soldiers' homecomings?
Bush and company are freaking out over THESE pictures...
http://www.drudgereport.com/dover.htm
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click the link for more...
Are there more than are actually being reported? Ar we not supposed to want to welcome them home to rest? I understand not wanting the families to be intruded upon, but why not still photography? The only thing I can come up with is they're hiding something. Any ideas?
Duckie
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:01 PM
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1. yes, we're not suppose to see this
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 02:02 PM by toiletbush
it will upset the sheeple. Keep it secret, just like the funding.
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buddy22600 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:01 PM
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2. They are hiding the fact
that there have been over 10,000 American deaths
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:04 PM
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4. where did you pull that number from??
:eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:17 PM
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16. Perhaps the poster just flew in from freepersville?
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:03 PM
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3. It makes it real
As long as you can keep it just numbers, fewer people really think about it. '67 deaths' doesn't make people think much. A picture of 67 flag-draped coffins does, and that doesn't help support of the war, IMO.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:09 PM
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5. To keep Bush's popularity high.
Doesn't seem to be working very well. According to a recent bipartisan poll by Business Week, only 36% of troops, their families, and vets approve of Bush as president.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:11 PM
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6. Do you have a link to that poll?
I know this vet and all he can say is "listen to people who know, the military supports Bush". I'd love to throw this in his face.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:12 PM
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9. Sorry, no link.
Read it in the paper this morning. Try Business Week.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:18 PM
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18. What newspaper did you read it in?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:11 PM
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7. And, the brave cargo worker who took those photos has been FIRED.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:11 PM
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8. Dupe post - ignore!
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 02:13 PM by VolcanoJen
:D Damn buggy DU software!! :D
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:15 PM
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10. Because when you see the coffins
you start thinking about what's inside them, and how they died, and what they were doing there, and eventually the slimy scumbags who sent them there and why those slimy scumbags are still not in prison.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:44 PM
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11. Pentagon rule--
they learned from Viet Nam that bad news, or any views of the carnage that war creates, gets people worked up. All of the demonstrations meant pretty much nothing until Life and a few other publications started printing pictures of the dead and wounded, and some credit that for finally turning the tide of popular anti-war sentiment. The shot of a summary execution may have been the single most important factor in moving public opposition to the war.

Back in Gulf I, the press was prohibited from actually seeing the action, and reporters were "detained" when they strayed from their appointed viewing points. Some of the older ones who covered Viet Nam knew what was going on and screamed, but no one listened. It worked very well. No nasty pictures of wounded GI's or Iraqi tank batallions napalmed with charred corpses lying in the sand or melted to the turret while trying to get out.

This time around, they are getting even more efficient at managing the news. Problem, for them, is that this has gone on so long that some stuff still gets out. There are just too many people involved to control.



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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:03 PM
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13. Yes, this is one of the supposed lessons learned by the Pentagon
from Vietnam -- Don't Show the Coffins! To bad they didn't learn some of the more important lessons.

I was little during the Vietnam war, and even I remember seeing the coffins every night on the news. That had a huge effect on the public reaction to the war (along with all those demonstrations, of course).

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:13 PM
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15. I've come to believe that is the ONLY lesson they learned from Vietnam
Looking at where things stand today, it's obvious they learned nothing else from it.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:50 PM
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12. I posted this once today.
Young man killed March 27. He is buried now. His wifes sister told me to day that his widow just got a call for the govt. as they have found more parts of him.I call that nightmare time. I do think it was easier when the subs just sank and no bodies were ever found. This is just to far over for me.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:05 PM
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14. The News Hour with Jim Lehrer
Has an Honor Roll at the end of each segment where they show a photo and the name of the deceased soldier. It is always really sad.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:18 PM
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17. That reminds me of something I saw on the History Channel.
They interviewed a German man who was a member of the Hitler Youth during WWII. He said "At my high school, they put up a board with the names of former students who had been killed in the war. After the Polish campaign, they put up the first two names. After the invasion of the Low Countries, they added four more. After we attacked France, six more names went up. When we invaded the USSR, they just kept adding more and more names until they had to get more boards. That continued for the rest of the war."

You could really tell that he remembered the image of his friends' names on the "board of honor" very clearly. These things have a big impact on people. That's why you aren't supposed to see the caskets or photos of the dead. They are just supposed to be statistics.
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