Bush wanted Fallujah "massively punished"

Sounds like something Bush would want, doesn't it?

from http://www.juancole.com/

AP reports that the US troops around Najaf have dug in for the long haul. It notes,

' Senior officers say the order to attack Najaf will be made "at the very highest levels of the U.S. government," an indication that President Bush may have the final word on whether soldiers here fight, or keep on waiting. '

Another reason for which the decision must be made by the President is the severe divisions in the US establishment in Iraq. Civil administrator Paul Bremer is said to have vehement and frequent disagreements with Gen. Rick Sanchez of CENTCOM.

There are also rumors that Bush himself made the decision that Fallujah would have to be massively punished for the desecration of the bodies of the US private soldiers of fortune killed there, and that Gen. John Abizaid strongly agreed.

That decision backfired badly from a political point of view, both in Iraq and the region, and the British in particular have signalled hard that it is time for the US to negotiate.

nothing like punishing an entire city for the actions of a few of their residents.

I'm afraid the reason why * hasn't plummeted in the polls is because he's thought of as a 'Dirty Harry meets Superman Jesus' kinda guy by all those Americans who think in Movie Morality themes.

All those cop movies about the renegade rule-breaking cop who gets his man? That's what Dubya is playing into and it's working for him.
That's why the Woodward book is helping him, not hurting him.

I stopped watching NYPD Blue when I noticed that the cops kept abusing and torturing suspects until they confessed and that playing outside the rules was being constantly shown as a necessary virtue: The illusion of playing fair while winning dirty.

He's seen as cutting through all the namby-pamby elitist chattiness of laws, treaties, the Constitution, Congress. He kicks butt!

So Cowboy George is winning against all those injuns and savages. And America applauds the cavalry for getting their scalps.

Read this review of the movie 'The Alamo' and its insights into what the author calls White Man Movie Fiction-
>snip<

"Contrary to popular mythology and the spurious history of White Man Movie Fiction, the story of the Alamo is not a story of a fight for freedom. It is the story of a fight for slavery. It is important for us to look honestly at our cultural and historical mythologies so that we can learn from them. By perpetuating the old myths, we create a stagnant and dangerous platform which prevents our cultural and artistic growth as a society."

www.counterpunch.com/santina040924.html

"the desecration of the bodies" by those youngsters played right into the Military desire. They have been itchin' to flatten the resistance and this gave them the excuse to do so.

I want to see Junior massively punished for going into Iraq illegaly and for lying to the American people. I don't just want him out of office, I want him in prison for the rest of his "unnatural" life. :grr: :mad: :puke:

Let's send in AC 130 gunships to lay waste to the general population. Yeah, that'll teach 'em! Don't mess with Texas! (or Connecticut, or Saudi Arabia, or wherever the hell he's really from).

I can't wrap my brain around this.

He seems to be going up in the polls now that he is running as a Dem so why would he do this? He can not let those numbers come down. Have you read Zogby?His polls are a little different.

Those damn brown skinned people just don't appreciate our freedom bombs and our freedom bullets, I guess. The ungratefulness will be punished, says lord bush. Got to teach them who master is.

I haven't said this outright in a while, and if this type of launguage offends, apologies (except to you ashkkkroft and you powell junior), but FUCK BUSH.

I know it makes you wanna' Shout, come on now! Me Too!

Bush is still "Mopping Up", it's what conquering Zeros always do, and Boy, is Bush's mop getting bloody! Gawd can't be in a real great mood over Bush's trail of Blood and Bull Shei'ite! Bush breaks EVERY commandment, but he still claims he's a "Jesus Man", and that's a true oxymoran!

The CIC Demands the newly "liberated" in Iraq turn over their weapons, but yet he wants a "TRUE Democracy" in Iraq like we have here! Here, where anyone can own an automatic weapon! = Oxymoranism! Bush does more Flip Flops than Olga Corbett!

else. But in this case, who will buy?

for too long and to hell with everybody else.

Ask yourself WHY is Bush punishing Fallujah for the killing of 4 mercenaries when 100 SOLDIERS have been killed in the last weeks? Mercenaries are hired by people like Halliburton as protection. These mercenaries were there to make money - they do not play by anyone's rules.

Our troops are there to try to keep control in a disaster area of Bush's making.

He has pissed off the Saudis, with whom he has a long history, over his pact with Sharon last Friday. Israel is taking full advantage of this so we are up the creek with no plan except extreme violence.

have always been more highly valued by conservatives in particular and the GOP in general. So his reaction here is one of the few he has had in recent years which can be seen in a warped sort of way as "principled."

Jr. has probably not been punished or experienced the consequences for his actions ever in his life.

in spite of the fact that there is video of the perpetrators of the mutilations in Fallujah, Bush has decided to punish the entire city?

Is this not a war crime? Isn't it against the Geneva Conventions to collectively punish an entire populace for the acts of a few?

Is anyone else having deja vu about this? The ultimatum has been issued: "Give us all your weapons, or we will wipe you out." The ultimatum is widely publicized by the media, and all we hear every day is "They aren't disarming. They aren't complying. They aren't cooperating." The old "days, not weeks" threat has even been recycled.

It's the same old run-up to war being played out again. Just as nothing could have stopped Bushco from attacking Iraq, nothing will stop the annihilation of Fallujah. It's a set-up to allow us to use the kind of warmaking we like: big bombs from a distance.

THE LIDICE MASSACRE ( June 10, 1942)

Two Czech patriots, Jan Kubis and Joseph Gabeik, serving with the Polish forces in Britain, volunteered to be dropped by parachute near Prague. Their mission, to assassinate SS Gruppenfuher Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. The ambush took place on May 27, 1942, as Heydrich drove to his office. Severely wounded, he was rushed to Bulovka Hospital where he died eight days later.

On June 9th armed police surrounded the small village of Lidice, some ten kilometres from Prague and gathered together the entire population in the tiny square. Boys over 15 were lined up with the men and locked up in an empty barn. Women and children were herded into the local school for the night. The houses were then ransacked, the pillaging went on all night. Next morning, June 10, at 5am, the women and children were bundled into trucks and driven away. The police then fetched dozens of mattresses from the ransacked houses and propped them up against the wall of the barn to prevent ricochets. The men and boys were then brought out 10 at a time, lined up in front of the mattresses and then shot.

In all, 173 souls were murdered this way. While the firing squads were busy, others set about burning the village to the ground. The bulldozers and ploughs were then brought in and in no time no recognizable feature of the village remained.

we want them to turn in their weapons. It's a war for God's sake! I'm not sure why we think they should just turn in their weapons. Why didn't we try this during WW II? would have saved alot of time. ha ha

He really knows how to put down an uprising of oppressed people.
:eyes:

The guy is an utter failure in everything he does, everything he touches, everything he breathes on.

He is a monumental failure in every aspect of his life.

:freak:

and all these innocent people and babies that died, was bush decision, without deep thinking, but thru emotion

hm

he won't succeed. They can bring in bombs and flatten Fallujah and Najaf. The problem is, there are cities nearby and they have their own percentage of would-be resistance fighters.

Iraqis know how to fade into the woodwork and become "invisible". They are a network of one, and they will just bide their time until they can move out into the open. Plus, the local population supports them.

This is the hardest type of warfare to fight. The enemy isn't out in the open. He's hiding, in plain view of the Americans. They can't get to him without killing many, many civilians, which they do. We were unable to fight the Viet Cong for this very reason.

The Americans, on the other hand, are very visible and vulnerable, despite their expensive trappings.

What a departure.

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of flattening the bridge when the festivities were going on, but that wouldn't result in enough civilian deaths. Can't do that now.

If so we need to get these "facts" to the major news outlets.

And it is cute how you put those quotes around the word facts.

Stupid frigging psychotic asshole!

this is all this stupid idiot knows to say or do, He is merely playing a part he once saw on TV

He thinks if he says things that sound big and tough that it means he actually IS mean and tough. Little men NEED to say things that make it seem as though they are real men --tough and mean, doncha know.


He loves thinking he is in charge of PUNISHING people and while he was Governer in Texas, in charge of EXECUTING people, while never reviewing their case.

He actully LOVES this. It MEANS that he is indeed superior to the rest of us, while we know how stupid he really is.
and it is really unfortunate that he was EVER put into a postion of power, for all he knows how to do is kill other people.


He bragged that he was a WAR PRESIDENT

In his mind that means that he has control over the lives and the deaths of others. Well, we ordindary people, know we have an IQ that is above that of our dumbassed presidunce

We do NOT subscribe to his assumed or Supreme Court delegated "authority" because we know he is stupid and we know we are smarter and wiser.

In his delusion that is actually what he thinks about himself and is what gives him the impetus to carry on in Iraq, no matter how many die under his lies.

He has to be taken out.

I was reminded of that, as well.

But the people of Fallujah got NO trial, not even a bad one.

What a tough guy. :crazy: :(

we could try him for war crimes and genocide.

Retribution? Even though it would obviously just make the situation worse? One would have to be wholly incapable of rational thought, maybe even driven by sense of inferiority or deep hatred, to think of doing so.

Oh, right.