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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:17 PM
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Seder on Majority Report talking about the 700 M spent on Iraq instead
of Afghanistan.
He mentioned that Rice said "it was not technically illegal because the money was for the region...
Anytime somebody says not "technically" it means it is really, really illegal.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:24 PM
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1. "not technically illegal because the money was for the region"
Did the Appropriations Bill that was approved by Congress say it was for the region? :eyes:

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:28 PM
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2. then untechnically it is illegal
send their ass to jail

it is legal or it is not legal. which one. i want to know

technically doesnt get to come in
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:31 PM
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3. You see, Congress is really more of a focus group that suggests...
where money should be spent. It's up to el Presidente to determine where the money is actually spent. All banana republics work that way.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:39 PM
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7. well. . .
Edited on Fri Apr-23-04 07:41 PM by stellanoir
I find the misappropriation of funds totally heinous. But the no bid wonders of what we've since spent in Iraq (Chalabi is still getting 3 million a year for having lied to us, mercenaries are getting $100,000 to $400,000 a year, and as riverbend so plaintiffly reminded us, highly skilled Iraqi's could have rebuilt a bridge for $300,000, but no they couldn't be trusted. So we hired Bechtel who did it for a mere $50,000,000. That is not a typo. That's hundreds of thousands versus tens of millions.)

There is no accountability for spending and that's very simply, why John Kerry did not vote for the 87 million appropriation. It wasn't because he didn't support the troops.

I'm truly sick of hearing otherwise.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:31 PM
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4. OK, so where's the definitive summary of this situation?
I'm seeing a lot of conflicting (dis?)info floating around. Is there a simple breakdown of (1)where the appropriations bill specified (2)who or what people or agencies were eligible to (3)spend the $700 million on (4)specific operations and/or preparations? Cos if this offense turns out to be spinnable as a red herring, I'm gonna be plenty pissed. I've seen it noted that the money was allocated to the "war on terror", which is vague enough that it could have been spent on just about anything.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:35 PM
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5. Who knows? Seder was saying that if Congress does not demand
and official hearing on this and an absolute explanation of why Congress was not notified they might as well ELIMINATE CONGRESS and save money for the country because they are just a rubber stamp for Bush*.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:36 PM
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6. not the same region
the State Department actually has two completely different sections of people who deal with each separate region.

Baghdad and Kabul are thousands of miles apart.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 07:48 PM
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8. don't think its legal
THE SUMMER SUPPLEMENTAL WAS SIGNED AFTER SECRET ORDER WAS MADE: According to Woodward, the order for the $700 million was given in July of 2002. The White House would have trouble arguing it took the secret $700 million out of the summer 2002 supplemental, considering the bill wasn't signed into law until August 2. Source: Congressional Record, 8/02]




UNABLE TO PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE THEY EVEN MENTIONED IRAQ TO CONGRESS: The Administration has yet to produce one reprogramming or transfer notice to Congress about the supplemental which mentioned Iraq. White House spokesman Scott McClellan "added that the White House had asked the Pentagon comptroller and OMB to document what had happened" but there has still been no evidence.
Source: LA Times, 4/20/04]


BILL REQUIRED BUSH TO TELL CONGRESS IF FUNDS GIVEN TO FRONTLINE STATES: According to the text of the August 2002 Supplemental, the President was allowed to use $390 million for aid to countries assisting with the Global War on Terror. However, that money could only be spent only after "15 days following notification to the appropriate Congressional committees." notification to the appropriate Congressional committees."

more at :http://messages.iwon.com/jsp/topicview.jsp?tid=476108&va=1
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