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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:36 PM Original message |
Kerry SHOULD appeal to swing voters, not the left |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here's an idea: Appeal to the disenfrachised 50% who don't even vote |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You make a very good point. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Of course they dont vote |
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JPJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. And what issues would bring these people to the polls? |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. This is where Dean can help |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Yes, the Nader, Dean, and Kucinich landslides show how well that works |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Hear hear! |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. That makes too much sense. It'd also create the need to be accountable |
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Nashyra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Fight fire with fire |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I agree with you |
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OneTwentyoNine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. I've said over and over they should be in Florida signing up... |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yeah. That worked real well in 2002. Or rather it helped the Repubs |
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DoktorGreg (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. The demographics are clear... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
52. There are few "swing voters"! This is the sole truth. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. Well it did not stop the Loony right from getting into office. Are there |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. in reality and the universal scheme of things |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. remember what harry truman said |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Playing to the center isn't about submitting to the Republican way |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. what did you think of truman dropping the A-bomb on japan ? |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. what does that have to do with this? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 04:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. you brought up truman |
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OneTwentyoNine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Glad he did,why do you ask? |
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Devils Advocate NZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Then DON'T blame Nader if Kerry loses... |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I didn't buy the argument |
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Nicholas_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. No matter what |
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Devils Advocate NZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Here is where you are making your mistake: |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. My goodness what a lot of words...and all wasted |
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Nicholas_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. One fact negates the idea that if Nader didnt run in 2000 |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. If its numbers you want |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. I pondered that, but I didn't look at his prior posts... |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Left, Center, Right sounds like Three Card Monty. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I don't think any of them sacrificed |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Which issue? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. national security |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Let me see if I follow you. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. the perception is that republicans are strong on national security |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. That was the 2002 plan |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Mary Landrieu and Tim Johnson did it |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Landrieu was a lucky duck |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. i didn't say only neautralize them |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. You're kidding me, right? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. i didn't say they care about ns therefore we should talk about something |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. How do you move the debate |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. i didn't say he should ignore national security |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
48. hey dralston |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Oh, Ardee! |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I just gotta....you know |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Once he wins, then he can govern from the left... |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
46. once he wins he can govern from the left |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:10 AM Response to Original message |
22. polls with Kerry losing points had to do with perception he is too liberal |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. What ISSUE did these polls say Kerry was too liberal on? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. national security |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
51. What is the "liberal" position on national security? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. i mean "liberal" as those who aren't all that informed view it |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
28. so, y'all won't mind if he governs that way as well? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
30. Well jeez,what are you worried about then? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
33. So you're saying Nader is irrelevant? |
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Snellius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. There are also swing voters on the Democrats' other side |
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Christ was Socialist (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. And you wonder why |
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ModerateMiddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
39. Contrary to what some folks on DU believe |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. And, pray tell, what parallel universe are you living in? |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. You mistakenly assume |
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TrueD (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
45. And if he does that I become a swing vote and vote for Nader |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
47. I will not be taken for granted again! |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
59. You fail to see that |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
63. Go ahead cut off your Left to spite the Right |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. Howabout...Kerry actually runs on what he believes in? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. like George McGovern ? |
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Khephra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. No...like his namesake |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. but why did McGovern lose ? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. Bullshit issue, since the stuff he has angered the left over |
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