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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:07 AM
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If Bush* is re(s)elected, Will You Leave?
As in, leave the country? Can you imagine the SCOTUS justice packing he would do as most of the court steps down? Scalia or Thomas as Chief Justice? And forget about congress stopping him. Daschele and Pelosi might try to stop the worst from being confirmed, but he has a long list he'd eventually ram his nominees through confirmation. That alone makes me seriously consider moving somewhere else, situated at least across a large ocean away from here. I'm under 30, not married, no kids, and do not want to stick around watching things deteriorate even more. It is absolutely essential Kerry win this election. I'm well aware of his warts and all, but the social impact of a Bush* packed Supreme Court is something that will mutate the America we know and love into something really scarey. Guantanamo is just the beginning, a dry run. We must not fail.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:09 AM
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1. Won't be able to afford it, but
I would love to. Four more years of this garbage is unthinkable.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:09 AM
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2. i'm leaving regardless
applying to move to canada. kerry will be a step in the right direction, but it simply is not enough.

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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:09 AM
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3. No, no, no
One sure way to ensure that a Bush victory destroys the country is if people leave the country and don't stick around to resist.

This may be a bit of an overstatement but I tend to feel that people who leave are cowards.

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bubba_fett Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:11 AM
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4. If your kitchen starts on fire...
will you move out of your house? Or stay and fight the fire?
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:29 AM
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9. If the arsonist controlled the fire department...
The wise thing to to is leave.

Executive, Judicial, Legaislative branches of government under the complete control of a malicious, dangerously unintelligent, dry drunk dictator, who himself is under the control of psychotic right wing p-nac'ers determined to absolutely f**k up everything good in this world...

This ain't just the kitchen on fire, it's the whole country. And the crazies have shut off the fire hydrants.

Wanting to leave and leaving are two diffrent things- has anyone looked at the process involved in getting in to Canada? Not easy at all.

All that said, I'd stay if I didn't have young children, but I do have children and what I think is best for them will guide my decision.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:17 AM
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5. I will allow nothing to force me to leave the land of my birth
Nothing! I love America. I love my country. I've lived abroad and I liked it well enough. But this is my country too, dammit. I don't want to cede it to Republicans and Coulterites.

In all honesty I don't think much of people running away just because things aren't going as they would like them. It's easy enough to be a patriot when things are easy; the true mark is to stick around when things are tough. Although I imagine this won't be a very popular opinion to express.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:20 AM
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6. depends if he is legitimately elected or not
If he steals the election I'll stay and fight.

If he really gets the most electoral votes I'll conclude most Americans are idiots and give up on this country and get out.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:32 AM
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11. I Agree
If the election is cancelled/stolen, that's one thing. But if the majority of my countrypeople really want 4 more years of this, I give up. Our congressional dems are too weak to make much of a difference. I just keep hoping something like Plame, Filegate, Iraq, LIHOP, or any number of the other criminal acts commited by these thugs actually catched up to them and bites em in the ass.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:22 AM
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7. No. Right-leaning moderate hubby doesn't think he is that bad
:eyes:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:48 AM
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15. EEK!!!
;)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:28 AM
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8. Yes, I intend to move up my 'retirement' to Ireland by 5 years...
been fighting the right wing and corporations for 40 years and am just tired. If the American people really want pseudo-fascism, then I'm leaving.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:31 AM
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10. No
People have to stay an stand up to this.

This is not the time for sunshine Patriots and summer soldiers.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:40 AM
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12. Why leave?
Why leave? You may be having to fight him as he invades your new country?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:43 AM
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13. Hell no.
This is my country, one that I served in the military for (which is a helluva lot more than about 99% of the folks currently fucking things up).
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:47 AM
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14. I have to wait 12 years to retire...THEN I'll leave.
I have a government job...it's not like I can just pick up and go, but, regardless, I'm leaving when I retire.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:52 AM
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16. the herbivores OUTNUMBER the carnivores by a huge margin
in other words, there's only a tiny handful of assholes fucking things all up for the whole world, yet we continue to graze, stupidly, while lions run the whole show, and feed off of us.

yet, all we herbivores have to do is stomp them all to death with our huge numbers. why didn't we grazers ever think of that?
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:15 AM
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18. I'd die before leaving the US
What are you thinking? If everyone left after Reagan's landslide win in 1984, there would have been no Clinton era.

We live in the greatest country with the most democratic form of government. There are problems with the system, but it is our obligation to fix those problems, not abandon the system because we don't like the result.

The facts are that four more years of Bush will benefit a small group of people. There is no way to convince those people to vote bush out, nor does it make sense to try.

The majority of this country, those who earn more from paychecks than from dividends, will not benefit from a bush re-election. Rove knows this and will ty to snow them into the defense theory, deflect attention that these voters would be better off with Kerry and direct attention towards bush's "feel good bombings" of iraq and the taliban.

We MUST spend our time showing the maority of the land the truth, that they would be better off with Kerry. If for some reason we fail, you don;t leave, you start working right away to show them what Bush does wrong so his appointed lackey (please let it be Rice, I'd love to beat her to a pulp)won;t beat Hillary in 2008.

I'd never leave, and I'll keep fighting the fight.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:54 AM
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17. Discussed....and considering...
When people fled Nazi Germany prior to WWII in the 30's many tried to warn nations that Germany was a real threat.

The Dali Lama left Tibet.

I will leave if I feel my family and I are in danger. The key is to recognize when that will occur and to leave before it is too late.

Sad that we are even discussing this.

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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:20 AM
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19. OH CANADA!!!!!!!!! nt
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:23 AM
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20. possibly
my husband (currently in the military) is afraid of what Dubya might do next and is talking about leaving if he is elected. I think he is just trying to rile up a couple of his officers, but I don't know.....
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:35 PM
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21. Probably...
Hi,

Yes, I will probably leave. I have two teens who would be eligible for the draft if it were re-instated...this is not a chance I want to take with their lives.

We'll move to Sweden. Sverige...Du Gamla Du Fria!

Cheers,
Kim;)
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