Why the Left IS patriotic

When rwingers tell you that you don't love your country if you oppose its foreign policy, just tell them this:

If you were a parent, you would love your child, correct? However, that wouldn't mean that you would blindly support anything they do. If your child behaves immorally and you disapprove of it, does that mean you do not love your child? Absolutely not, it is becuase you love your child that you want him or her to behave in a moral fashion. In fact, to not disapprove of inappropriate conduct would be neglectful and irresponsible.

Same thing with a country; it is an expression love for one's country to want to see it behave in a moral fashion and to disapprove when it does not.

if you oppose its foreign policy, just tell them: Eat my ass.

Edited for clarity.

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"Eat my ass."

You show them that Freeper who;s against the constitution.

tell'm 'pog mo thoin' (pron. 'pok muh hoyn' -- 'kiss my arse' in Gaelic) :evilgrin:

The problem with right-wingers is that they wear their patriotism on their sleeves, and have none within.

The whole "Liberals arnt patriotic" because they oppose a certain foreign policy is just so Vietnam-era "love it or leave it".

All you gotta say. Take the damn keys away.

About once for every article or post I've read on DU. The main problem with the child argument is that a) countries are not the people's children regardless of what analogy you use, but rather their slaves, b) except for Michael Savage listeners, parents unconditionally love and support their children, and c) since the human face of a country is its leader, opposing the current president, regardless of positions or party, is unpatriotic.

By the same token, I think that patriotism is a bad thing, more precisely a form of dangerous fanaticism, but I'm in the minority here.

I'm with you. I think patriotism is dangerously divisive and creates global problems.

Love of country is one thing, but patriotism is not the same thing.

patriotism is defined as "love for or devotion to one's country"

That's pretty much what I think of patriotism as.

I'm curious as to what your definition is, and why you think it's 'dangerously divisive' and that it 'creates global problems'.

The right wingers have monopolized patriotism. In effect they have stolen it!
No one has a monopoly on this. The only use that the freepers have for patriotism is to us it to cover
for their own evil deeds and doings!

These people know what dissent is, why we opposed the war, etcetera. They know it already. I don't think I'm gonna waste any more time trying to explain to these people the basic principles on which the USA was founded anymore. I'll just be like "you know that's shit, if you wanna know why, you can ask me." If they wanna go on, just be like "well you don't even wanna ask me" and leave. I'm tired of this. You don't have to try and get a word in edgewise that they already know.

My wingnut Vet "friend" sent me a 4th of July thing, which was FINE, but at the end it said, "Tell everybody PATRIOTISM is NOT a SIN."

I replied, "Nobody ever said PATRIOTISM was a sin, but USING "patriotism" as a POLITICAL TOOL against your FELLOW COUNTRYMEN--------*IS*----a "SIN".

I was furious during Selection-2000 when those five or six Medal of Honor holders stood on that PARTISAN POLITICAL WINGNUT stage and endorsed Shrub.

I called the American Legion and VFW headquarters and read them the Riot Act, telling them that service to the COUNTRY does NOT mean "wingnutism". They told me they don't officially endorse political positions. They better their ASS not.

That sums it up in a nutshell. A good comeback for the droning of the right wingers.