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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:52 PM
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What exactly are "Chickenhawks" and "Freepers"?
I know what they represent... I've seen the words and understand what they mean based on the context of the sentences. But I've never heard the history or the specific definition of the terms.

What do they mean exactly?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:53 PM
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1. FReeper - denizen of http://www.freerepublic.com (n/t)
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:54 PM
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2. Definitions
Freeper-someone who reads Free Republic and espouses its views

Chickenhawk-someone who avoided the draft and never served in the military who wants the US to have a war policy

These might not be entirely accurate, but they'll do until someone with more knowledge posts here.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:54 PM
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3. chicken=cowardly; hawk=war monger
A chickenhawk pushes for war but never served in the armed forces.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:54 PM
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4. Well.
A Chickenhawk is someone who advocates war without having had the guts to go to war themselves.

A Freeper is a member of Free Republic which is a website diametrically opposed to us. Can also be used to describe a Right Winger or Republican who doesn't frequent that site.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:55 PM
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5. A Chickenhawk is a Warmonger.........
who has personally avoided military service.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:55 PM
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6. Welcome to DU
I'm not sure who started using the term Chickenhawk. It might have come from Al Franken's first book, Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat Liar. He had a chapter Operation Chickenhawk. It caught on because it fits so well on the sort of person who wouldn't fight themselves but want other people to fight.

chicken -- draft dodger
hawk -- pro-war as long as someone else or someone else's children fight
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:59 PM
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12. new hampshire gazette, i think n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:59 PM
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13. The term "chickenhawk" has been around for decades. It
The term "chickenhawk" has been around for decades.

It wasn't coined by Al Franken.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:57 PM
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7. chickenhawk has at least two meanings
1. As used here it is a play on the usual Hawk versus Dove debate. Hawk = pro-war, Dove = pro-peace. So a chickenhawk is someone who is pro-war but too chicken to go themselves.

2. In jail, a chickenhawk is a convicted child molester - the lowest of the low.

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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:57 PM
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8. Often, the same thing...
...nt
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:57 PM
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9. Chickenhawks
are those who are gung ho for war as long as they aren't the one's who do the fighting, they are "arm-chair warriors".

Freepers are the rightwing neo-cons who frequent the News Max site and it's a name they gave themselves.

I'm not sure about the history of either term :shrug: but as long as I can remember people who were hawkish on war but to chicken :scared: to fight themselves have been called chickenhawks.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:58 PM
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10. "freeper" is one who hails from freerepublic.com
but has sort of evolved into a general description for any frothing-at-the-mouth wingnut conservative.

I think chickenhawk is perfect description because - well - ya got your cowardly "chicken" and your warlike "hawk" (opposite of dove). Put 'em together and... you've got a chickenhawk with the personality of the chickenhawk from the foghorn leghorn cartoons.

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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 05:59 PM
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11. btw
welcome to DU
:toast:
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:55 PM
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14. Thanks!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 12:16 AM
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15. One naturally goes with the other.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 12:18 AM
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16. One and the same. n/t
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