Does Adultery affect ability to govern?

Some people are saying Arnold cheated on his wife, etc.
Does anyone remember a person named Bill Clinton?
Did it affect his ability to govern this country? Nope.
I guess its only ok if a Democrat does it?
Tell me if I am missing something, because I am confused why anyone would try to use republican tactics to smear Arnold.

to govern but it probably did cost Al Gore the election. So in that sense it does.

Arnold the Barbarian
By John Connolly in Premier Magazine
March 2001

Once, he was a box office terminator. But now that Arnold Schwarzenegger has lost some of his muscle in Hollywood, stories of his boorish behavior can no longer be routinely erased. Then again, he'd make a helluva politician. The tabloid press got a nice Christmas present late last year when Arnold Schwarzenegger tore through a day of publicity work in London, promoting his latest film, The 6th Day, which had just opened there. In less than 24 hours, the star was said to have attempted to, as high school boys used to say, cop a little feel from three different female talk-show hosts. The level of consternation expressed by those who received this hands-on treatment from the hulking, Austrian-born international superstar ranged from none whatsoever (Denise Van Outen of The Big Breakfast invites her guests to lie on a bed with her and, hence, probably has a rather elastic definition of what constitutes inappropriate behavior) to irked (on tape, Celebrity interviewer Melanie Sykes looks a little thrown off after Arnold gives her a very definite squeeze on the rib cage, directly under her right breast) to, finally, righteously indignant. Anna Richardson of Big Screen claims that after the cameras stopped rolling for her interview segment, Schwarzenegger, apparently attempting to ascertain whether Richardson’s breasts were real, tweaked her nipple and then laughed at her objections. “I left the room quite shaken,” she says. “What was more upsetting was that his people rushed to protect him and scapegoated me, and not one person came to apologize afterward.”
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http://www.health-and-medical.com/health/man_health_magazine/man_health_magazine_msg42682/man_health_magazine_msg42682.shtml
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=15052&mesg_id=15052

help Dems to win office?

Tell me if I am missing something, because I am confused why anyone would try to defeat Republicans by criticizing Dems.

then start your own thread.

is to defeat the Repukes, a desire not shared by everyone.

Credibility must get by the carrot jokes that folks who have seen the Arnold in Rio video sold on Amason and recall his desire to go anal with a carrot on a lady - and his open door as he has oral sex with ladies "'eating is not cheating' - per Arnie" -and it must get by the open bed hopping (Clinton tried to keep his world private).

And if Arnie doesn't get a room at the Capitol for his fun, it will affect his time away from the job.

Stories are that whenever Arnold wants sex, he grabs
for the nearest woman, despite what she may want or not.
He has real boundary issues...that is sexual harrassment,
not consensual adult sex.

Monica and Bill practiced consensual sexual gratification,
short of intercourse in the White House. I know it wasn't
first time or last in that setting. It wasn't admirable
for BC to hurt his family either.

If Californians really want to lower the bar and make
every single Republican a hypocrite...then let them for
not only an adulterer but someone who has sexual boundary
problems who could face criminal charges. I find it interesting
that Republicans who couldn't stand a man who got a BJ,
wanting to vote for this guy.

There are reports of repeated sexual assaults on unwilling women who were working on his films and thus in no position to have him arrested/charged with sexual assault.

I think we need to make sure the Republicans hold their own to the same standards that they hold the Democrats to.

I defended Clinton as it related to his adultery not affecting his ability to govern, so I would have have to do the same for any Repuke. However I would call the Repukes on their hypocrisy.

about it. However, since the Republicans have decided that it's an issue I fail to see how we can't point out that they can't claim the high road.

:shrug:

Please explain to me how ousting the ONE GOVERNOR who stood up to him will accomplish that.

There's nothing sadder than people who work against their own interests

but, as I'm sure you well know, people are diverse and can't be ideologically pure...especially here at DU

Davis caused his own problems one way or another, and the California Dem party better figure out how to get everyone off their butts and vote NO, or AHH-nold will be elected.

The other thing would be for Davis to show that's he's been horn-swaggled (if thats the euphemism I'm looking for) into the ZEnron disater by a proactive White House, then you COULD make that claims that this is all just a stupid Republican trick, but you'll need a smoking gun for that argument to gain any traction.

I don't know, nsma...I was thinking that the recall would be put down, but I'm not so sure anymore :-\

Whether you like it or not, filandering doesn't sit well with the public.

"filandering" is great if you're a Democrat...but those evil Repukes!

about Arnie's adultery (much as he'll make use of his wife on the campaign) It's more stuff like this that would make me withhold my vote:



"Neither my mother nor Maria is allowed to go out with me in pants."

Playboy, 1988
"I don't worry about it because I never took an overdosage."

Playboy, 1987, when asked about steroid use
"I knew I was a winner. I knew I was destined for great things. People
will say that kind of thinking is totally immodest. I agree.
'Modesty' is not a word that applies to me in any way."

'Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder,'
1977 autobiography
"As we were rehearsing, I saw this toilet bowl. How many times do you
get away with this - to take a woman, grab her upside down and bury her
face in a toilet bowl? I wanted to have something floating in there."

Entertainment Weekly, 2003,
about a scene in 'Terminator 3'

But then again, I am an idiotic ABB-er, so what do I know?

In our fishbowl environment, these sort of personal follies distract from the ability to govern effectively. It is a problem if people think it is, in other words. Public figures need to be acceptable to the public.

Repeated, consistent adultery may be indicative of other problems that are related to ability to govern - self control, empathy, excessive machismo, etc. Occasional cheating isn't - but consistently doing so may show a personality flaw.

True of Clinton and of Arnold. While I think Clinton's problem was hounded well out of proportion, I think he would have been a much more effective president and party leader had he not dallied.

Sort of like drinking. Someone gets drunk on a few occasions, its a human flaw. Someone is perpetually intoxicated until they are in their 40's - that person has a personality flaw that make me very skeptical of their ability to be president.

... it's groping women without their consent, for one thing.

a persons creditablility. If you would cheat on your wife and risk losing your family you'll cheat on anything.
Some people look at cheating as gambling.
I wouldn't vote for Arnold

I don't care. If you don't have an open relationship but are easily enticed, so much that you can lie to your SO or break vows made to them - then I don't trust you to govern.

I think.

First time I've thought about that one so that may change.