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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 03:21 AM
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Any links I can use in an argument with a RW - Al Queda/Iraq link?
Yeah, for some reason people are still insisting Iraq was linked to 9/11 and Al Queda, anything that can get through the haze of Faux News and tear the lies down?
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 03:38 AM
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1. try this...
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 03:39 AM
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2. Here's one
Chris Matthews interviewing Rumsfeld. Down about half way through the interview. I'll see if I can find another one.

<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4871932/>
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 03:42 AM
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3. I'm so glad you asked.
Here's a few links. I have many more if you want. Any time you need evidence to counter warmongers' lies, please let me know. They must be exposed at every oppotunity for the frauds and dispicable liars that they are.

1.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/16/cheney_link_of_iraq_911_challenged/

-snip-
Vincent Cannistraro, a former CIA counterterrorism specialist, said that Cheney's "willingness to use speculation and conjecture as facts in public presentations is appalling. It's astounding."

In particular, current intelligence officials reiterated yesterday that a reported Prague visit in April 2001 between Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta and an Iraqi agent had been discounted by the CIA, which sent former agency Director James R. Woolsey to investigate the claim. Woolsey did not find any evidence to confirm the report, officials said, and President Bush did not include it in the case for war in his State of the Union address last January.

...Cannistraro, the former CIA counterterrorism specialist, said. "If you repeat it enough times . . . then people become convinced it's the truth."

2. http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s940292.htm

Spanish intelligence service says no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda: report

3. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/27/1056683906562.html

Iraq and al-Qaeda: UN finds no links


4. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=33332

AL QAEDA MEN TOLD U.S.: NO LINK TO SADDAM

-snip- Dick Cheney and other Administration officials did not make public the testimony of two high-level Al Qaeda men who, in separate interrogations by their CIA captors, denied that their group had any ties to the Saddam Hussein regime. Al Qaeda planner and recruiter Abu Zubaydah, captured in March 2002, told the CIA that Osama bin Laden himself rejected the idea of working with the Iraqi government, because he did not want to be beholden to Saddam Hussein.

Al Qaeda chief of operations Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, captured March 1, 2003, in Pakistan, told the Agency that Al Qaeda does not work with Saddam Hussein. Cheney and his clique have repeatedly asserted the contrary.

5. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A19822-2003Jun21?language=printer

Report Cast Doubt on Iraq-Al Qaeda Connection

-snip- The president said some al Qaeda leaders had fled Afghanistan to Iraq and referred to one "very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year." It was a reference to Abu Mussab Zarqawi, a Jordanian. U.S. intelligence already had concluded that Zarqawi was not an al Qaeda member but the leader of an unaffiliated terrorist group who occasionally associated with al Qaeda adherents, the sources said.

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 04:15 AM
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4. Ah, what the hay, why stop there?
6. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,974182,00.html

CIA had doubts on Iraq link to al-Qaida

Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Tuesday June 10, 2003
The Guardian

The debunking of the Bush administration's pre-war certainties on Iraq gathered pace yesterday when it emerged that the CIA knew for months that a connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida was highly unlikely.

...Zubaydah, who was arrested in Pakistan in March last year, told his CIA interrogators that Bin Laden had considered and then rejected the idea of working with Saddam because he did not want to be in the Iraqi leader's debt.
His information was supported on the eve of war after Mohammed was arrested in Pakistan on March 1. Mohammed, who had been al-Qaida's chief of operations, told the CIA the group did not work with Saddam.
While the CIA shared its interrogation record of Zubaydah with other intelligence agencies, it did not release its conclusions to the public.

7. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_788999.html

Bin Laden 'shunned Iraqi terror link-up'
Story filed: 15:41 Monday 9th June 2003

Osama bin Laden rejected proposals to plot joint terror attacks with Saddam Hussein's regime, according to two captured al-Qaida leaders.
Al-Qaida planner and recruiter Abu Zubaydah, who was seized last March, has reportedly told CIA interrogators bin Laden vetoed suggestions by top members of his network to form an alliance, because he did not want to be indebted to the Iraqi leader.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the group's head of operations before he was captured in Pakistan earlier this year, has also claimed that the network did not work with Iraq, US officials told the New York Times.

8.http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/09/international/worldspecial/09INTE.html

Captives Deny Qaeda Worked With Baghdad
By JAMES RISEN

WASHINGTON, June 8 ? Two of the highest-ranking leaders of Al Qaeda in American custody have told the C.I.A. in separate interrogations that the terrorist organization did not work jointly with the Iraqi government of Saddam Hussein, according to several intelligence officials.

Abu Zubaydah, a Qaeda planner and recruiter until his capture in March 2002, told his questioners last year that the idea of working with Mr. Hussein's government had been discussed among Qaeda leaders, but that Osama bin Laden had rejected such proposals, according to an official who has read the Central Intelligence Agency's classified report on the interrogation.

In his debriefing, Mr. Zubaydah said Mr. bin Laden had vetoed the idea because he did not want to be beholden to Mr. Hussein, the official said.

9. http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/09/01/iraq.aziz/index.html?related

Iraqi official calls U.S. charges 'baseless'
September 2, 2002

"They aren't in a part of Iraq that is under our control," Aziz said of the Kurdish region. "I've made it clear tens of times, hundreds of times, that our political system, our political ideology is against the ideology and the practices of the Taliban and the al Qaeda group."
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 04:26 AM
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5. Bush himself said there's no evidence for a link
Edited on Sat May-01-04 04:29 AM by rman
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:37 AM
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6. thanks all
appreciate it.
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