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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:39 AM
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If we went to war to "liberate" Iraq...
If we went to war to liberate iraq and make it some sort of beacon of liberal democracy as the likes of Tony Blair have claimed then why are we doing things like this?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1206672,00.html

Graphic photographs showing the torture and sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners in a US-run prison outside Baghdad emerged yesterday from a military inquiry which has left six soldiers facing a possible court martial and a general under investigation.

The pictures, which were obtained by an American TV network, also show a dog attacking a prisoner and other inmates being forced to simulate sex with each other. It is thought the abuses took place in November and December last year.

One civilian contractor was accused of raping a young male prisoner but has not been charged because military law has no jurisdiction over him.

The charges against the six soldiers included "indecent acts, for ordering detainees to publicly masturbate; maltreatment, for non-physical abuse, piling inmates into nude pyramids and taking pictures of them nude; battery, for shoving and stepping on detainees; dereliction of duty; and conspiracy to maltreat detainees". One of the soldiers, Staff Sgt Chip Frederick is accused of posing in a photograph sitting on top of a detainee, committing an indecent act and with assault for striking detainees - and ordering detainees to strike each other.


http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=517052

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14199634%26method=full%26siteid=50143%26headline=shame%2dof%2dabuse%2dby%2dbrit%2dtroops-name_page.html

A HOODED Iraqi captive is beaten by British soldiers before being thrown from a moving truck and left to die.

The prisoner, aged 18-20, begged for mercy as he was battered with rifle butts and batons in the head and groin, was kicked, stamped and urinated on, and had a gun barrel forced into his mouth.

After an EIGHT-HOUR ordeal, he was left barely conscious and close to death. Bleeding and vomiting and with a broken jaw and missing teeth, he was driven from a Basra camp and hurled off the truck. No one knows if he lived or died.

The shocking pictures on this page were handed to us by one of the attackers and a colleague. We have agreed to protect their identities as they fear reprisals.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:47 AM
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1. nazis
plain and simple. would that i were in britain, or anywhere but here. i've always loved america, warts and all, but now i am ashamed, and if overseas, i'd pretend to be canadian.

every day i grow more frightened at the overall tone of barbarity in current american culture. reminds me of ancient rome, mighty, but mortal. tony and dubya have left a lot of dead folks in their wake.
i think even tony is snapping out of his stupor, but not our guy.

thanks for the articles and pics.
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