How will Clinton be remembered in history?

This is a bit trickier.

if the RW is victorious, Clinton will be vilified.

of the rankings of the past presidents. He said historians do not include a president in the list until at least 10 years after they left office, to get some objectivity. I spent a lot of time trying to find a source online that seemed neutral, which would judge presidents on achievments, etc., but I didn't find anything worthwhile. Anyone know of any resource like this?

but most have put Clinton near the middle. My guess is he'll be remembered as doing a decent job, but was a seriously flawed person. He certainly wasn't the first to be like this (Wilson and even JFK were no saints in their private lives), but he was the first where his private life was as open and vilified.

expains everything

:eyes:

Than to be a cocaine addict
an alcoholic
a drunk driver
or just an all around idiot


Given the choice between a sex addict and a cociane using, alcoholic, drunk-driving, half-witted moron, I would take the sex addict anyday.

The EPA, diplomatic relations with China, etc. But Clinton's performance as a president was stellar, as I see it.
Yes he had a few human failings, but they were NOT related to his ability to perform his duties.
A genuine compassionate, intelligent and charismatic man.

In terms of 20th century presidents I'd place him only below FDR, Truman and Teddy Roosevelt.

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in the same sentence. :evilgrin:

Just look at the inane writings of Ann Coulter.

Marcus was one of the last great emperors of Rome. Historians are split on him. Some see him as the last great gasp of a sinking empire. Others see him as the one who sunk it. He tried to be the Aristotlean philosopher-king, and there is disagreement on how well he is remembered.

Clinton will be remembered like that. I think America is cooked. I think it now settles down into the middle of the rest of the nations and loses its status as world leader, at least until another FDR comes along. Or worse, if Bush continues, it goes down in total flames. Historians will argue over Clinton as much as citizens do now, and will blame him for America's fall and claim he was the last great gasp sandwiched between the two destructors-- Reagan and W.

The sex stuff will be a laughing matter, just a barroom joke. The Republicans will be looked upon much te same way as those who impeached Johnson are-- as shortsighted sore losers whose partisanship allowed America to sink into decay. 9-11 will eventually be blamed on them, once we are past the immediate impact of active campaigning. Without impeachment, without the petty nihilism of the Republicans, there would have been no 9-11, no Iraq invasion, no exploding deficit, and no eventual crash.

would have to remember what it was like when he in office. Peace and prosperity compared to what followed, he looks better every day. History will be kind to Bill and vindicate him for what he had to endure.

Understood the importance of relevant issues to this country from the economy to terrorism. Was very popular as a president in both terms despite the attacks from the right wing nuts. Watched over the lives of americans unlike that idiot coruput lying ass Shrub!!

(And I was going easy on Shrub.) :puke:

Honestly, in 50-100 years, that's all people are going to look back to and remember.

Time to bring on the Emperors. This is where things start to get interesting. For historians. It'll suck for us, but there you go.