Families of the MPs in Iraq on Harball

CatWoman

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Mon May-03-04 06:12 PM
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Families of the MPs in Iraq on Harball

says they were just "following orders"

BULLSHIT.

No one can make you disobey an UNLAWFUL order.

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Qanisqineq

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Mon May-03-04 06:14 PM
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1. retired Lt. Col. Francona

Edited on Mon May-03-04 06:20 PM by Tolania

was just on saying the excuses of "I was just following orders" or "I didn't know the Geneva Convention rules" is a bullshit argument.

Edit: fixed Francona's rank

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CatWoman

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Mon May-03-04 06:15 PM
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2. the wife of this NCO is on

and she says she doesn't believe the witnesses who blew the whistle.

Dumb ass.

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NMDemDist2

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Mon May-03-04 06:16 PM
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4. "just following orders"??!!?? that's what the Nazi guards said

about sending Jews to the ovens.

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Lex

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Mon May-03-04 06:26 PM
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11. Exactly! Do these people live under a ROCK?

Edited on Mon May-03-04 06:26 PM by Lex

In light of that excuse being used as you describe, you'd think any sensible person would not utter such a pathetic, and historically repugnant, excuse.

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seabeyond

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Mon May-03-04 06:15 PM
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3. shame on those for just following orders

that is what happened that allowed the horrors of the holocaust. now they can go to jail for following orders

but more, go after the people who gave these orders. i can buy that they were following orders, i believe it, i believe this is a procedure that the top knew about. so get their butts, all of them

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Christ was Socialist

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Mon May-03-04 06:16 PM
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5. Kill me before I follow orders

If it's treason so be it. But if I was a soldier i wouldn't follow any orders, kill me so i can die with a just conscious

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librechik

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Mon May-03-04 06:17 PM
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6. NOW do you believe us that they're just like Nazis?

good grief. Watch'em wiggle out of this too, just becasue nobody wants to believe it.

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CatWoman

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Mon May-03-04 06:20 PM
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8. This woman is pathetic

says her first husband was Marine, and she knows how the military trains soldiers for combat.

This wasn't combat.

This was obscene. Pure and simple.

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Qanisqineq

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Mon May-03-04 06:25 PM
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10. she just droned on with the same excuses

for the entire time. :banging my head against the wall:

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hippiegranny

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Mon May-03-04 06:19 PM
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7. they had orders to take pictures?

of naked people performing pseudo sex acts? of people piled on top of each other? of guards laughing and pointing to the prisoner's genitals? THAT was following orders? what planet do they think we live on?

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mtnester

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Mon May-03-04 06:23 PM
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9. My CORRECTIONS OFFICER husband

did not have any training....

We need TRAINING to be a decent human being? You GOTTA be shittin me!

No sympathy from me honey...none

and these are our registered voters...scared yet?

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mohinoaklawnillinois

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Mon May-03-04 06:34 PM
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16. Yes I am and so is my husband as well.

He knows something about being tortured. It happened to him thanks to the British Army/RUC in Northern Ireland.

When this story first broke, he looked at me with horror and disgust and said, "There is absolutely no excuse from anyone for this type of behavior. One time is one time too many."

I cannot believe that any human being could agree that torturing another human being is ever an option.

God help us all if these cretins and their superiors get away with this.

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CatWoman

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Mon May-03-04 06:27 PM
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12. Howard Dean is coming up!!!

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readmylips

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Mon May-03-04 06:27 PM
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13. This is bushe's christian so called Army....

God is Great, God is Good.
Bush keep telling Lies
...Here I come after you...Karma....Karma

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daleo

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Mon May-03-04 06:30 PM
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14. Let's follow that chain of orders as high as it goes

If they were just following orders, let's find out who gave those orders.
Then let's find out who gave those orders.
and so on.

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slinkerwink

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Mon May-03-04 06:31 PM
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15. Dean's coming up!!!

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CatWoman

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Mon May-03-04 06:34 PM
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lol

they showed a clip of Chimpy blathering that "I had to defend America" bullshit.

Dean says he's still spouting that nonsense.

LMAO.

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slinkerwink

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Mon May-03-04 06:36 PM
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18. haha, Dean's great with that straight talk!

Dean's saying that Bush has an obsession with Saddam Hussein, and talking about Paul O' Neill, etc.

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KittyWampus

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Mon May-03-04 06:42 PM
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19. Bush Ran On A Policy of Humility But Gives World Humiliation

rough quote.

I think Dean was a bit uncomfortable talking about torture business.

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slinkerwink

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Mon May-03-04 06:44 PM
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20. that's because I think he didn't want to talk about the torture since

he was kerry's surrogate, and any comments about that from Dean would be traced back to Kerry.

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CatWoman

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Mon May-03-04 06:45 PM
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21. that was a most excellent quote

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Political_Junkie

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Mon May-03-04 06:34 PM
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17. Someone here on DU earlier today

predicted they would use this excuse.

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