"I think tha a solider who goes awol is more brave than pat tillman types"

Catholic Sensation

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Tue May-04-04 07:42 PM
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"I think tha a solider who goes awol is more brave than pat tillman types"

How the HELL anyone can say that and be genuine is beyond me, but it's not surprising.

Using this logic, the person who said this obviously feels that George W. Bush is more brave than John Kerry, which is a totally stupid thing to think regardless of personal opinions about the military.

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Catholic Sensation

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Tue May-04-04 07:45 PM
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1. kick

i'd like the person who said this to respond

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rumguy

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Tue May-04-04 07:46 PM
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2. I see your point

Tillman was good guy and a genuine hero in a lot ways. Just ignore the media hype...

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Tue May-04-04 07:50 PM
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Catholic Sensation

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Tue May-04-04 07:51 PM
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5. love the use of a slur to make a point

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tinanator

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Tue May-04-04 07:53 PM
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6. you tell me why Kerry killed them then

and use flowery prose if you like. He is a war hero, right?

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bpilgrim

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Tue May-04-04 07:51 PM
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4. it's probably referring to the HARSH CRITICISM of the 'OUTCAST'

and from what i read even he shunned the extra-attention.

i think there is certainly merit to the claim though i wouldn't take anything away from tillman and every experiance is DIFFERENT.

i had never heard of him before until reading about his death, like so many others, and as usual was very moved and respectful of their sacrifice.

I hope that his life will not be wasted and that MANY OTHERS will learn about his horrible sacrifice and pay even CLOSER attention to WHATS-GOIN-ON.

what a tradgedy for us all.

peace

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Catholic Sensation

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Tue May-04-04 07:56 PM
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10. no this was in relation to pat tillman

not the guy going awol from iraq on the basis of personal belief

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plurality

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Tue May-04-04 07:55 PM
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7. your analogy fails

Edited on Tue May-04-04 07:56 PM by plurality

Because GW went AWOL from cowardice not out of principle.

However, if one knows a war is wrong, then it takes moral cowardice to continue to be a part of it. If you know there isn't a reason for you to be in some other country killing people, and you do it anyway, well, I won't say what I would think of you.

As for me, I'd go to jail or let the government kill me themselves before I'd go and kill innocent people for them. You see, to me, my soul is more important than my life.

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Catholic Sensation

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Tue May-04-04 07:55 PM
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8. if that caveat was there

i'd agree, but it isn't

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plurality

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Tue May-04-04 08:04 PM
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14. well I didn't see the post

And I think bashing Tillman is about the dumbest thing anyone can do, whether you think he's a hero or was misguided, either way nothing is gained by it.

However, I will say that it takes an enormous amount of courage to NOT fight. When the prospect of prison is staring in the face, and just about everyone in the country will hate you if you don't go, it can be very difficult to not go along to get along.

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FlemingsGhost

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Tue May-04-04 07:56 PM
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9. There's a Tillman thread (generated by Skinner) somewhere.

Shouldn't this be discussed there?

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DrWeird

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Tue May-04-04 07:57 PM
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11. I agree with it.

It's better to desert than kill civilians, and it takes a lot more guts.

Your analogy is critically flawed.

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Must_B_Free

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Tue May-04-04 07:59 PM
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12. One guy on CNN was saying he can only trust Bush

because Kerrey got three purple hearts so quickly, that he probably did it to get out of the war so he could go home.

Anything but the truth for these people.

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Blue-Jay

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Tue May-04-04 08:03 PM
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13. Just what I wanted.

Another stupid "Tillman" thread.

That said, I'll give my worthless opinion: He did what he thought was right, and I respect him for it. Many of us are quick to say "Hey Asshole, if you're in support of the war, sign the fuck up!" Tillman did just that. I think that he made a mistake, but he did it anyway.

He may have been wrong, but at least he was was brave and guided by his heart. He died for his beliefs, and I'll not say a bad word about him for that. I can disagree with his conclusions and still respect him for his honesty.

Why is this such an issue?

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