On Powell's relationship with Vice President Dick Cheney, Ullman said: "I can tell you firsthand that there is a tremendous barrier between Cheney and Powell, and there has been for a long time ..." And about Rice's insistence, after recent revelations that Powell and Cheney are estranged, that the men are "on more than speaking terms," and that they're "very friendly," Ullman said: "Condi's a jerk."
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