Why is the media showing naked Iraqis but not dead babies?

Okay, this is my third try at this. My first two got deleted immediately.

Why is the media showing, ad nauseum, photos of naked Iraqi men forced into sex acts?

But they don't show pictures of dead babies from Fallujah and elsewhere?

I, for one, am much more horrified by pictures of dead babies than I am by pictures of naked men, even if the naked men are being abused and tortured.

They're both horrible.

But my theory is that the media is showing the torture pictures because they are sexual in nature.

The outrage is due to the sexual nature.

This is America, after all, founded by Puritans, where Southern Baptists and Church of Christ think it's a sin to dance.

Why aren't there dead baby photos in the media? Why aren't people outraged by them?

Why aren't there photos of the mass graves in the fallujah soccer stadium, and why isn't the media drumming up outrage over this?

I will include no pictures in this post to spare the sensitive eyes of DUers the photos I'm talking about.

to the photos

or is that "prohibited" as well

WTF?

these don't show fallujah pics but they show a hell of a lot of others:

http://www.einswine.com/atrocities/iraq/?pic=166

(keep hitting "next")

and

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page5.htm

http://www.marchforjustice.com/Shock&Awe_files/frame.htm

Good point....what is the difference?

Dead babies and human torture....

I think it lies in the perception that most people had that in War when bombs are dropped on civilians there will be dead babies.

We all understand that.

However, I for did not think that our soldiers would obey orders to torture POWs. or kill them. Apparently it did sit well with some soldiers as the supplied the photos to the Mirror and CBS.

That strikes deep into the not only the entire war and it's haphazard justification and execution but also it vidily illustrates that America the Beautiful is in reality, America the Beautiful Thug.

As a society we lack any collective notion of real compassion.

Sure we have our "yellow ribbon, candlelight vigil" brand compassion but is that real compassion, or just a cheap facade?

I find both situations absolutely horrific. (For one thing, some of those "men" are teenage boys.)

There are sites on the internet where you can see the civilian side of this war, but no way will the major networks or even cable networks touch a picture of a wailing mother attempting collect the bloody pieces of her babies scattered over the ground.:mad:

It was so sad that a grave with two little girls had to be unnamed because no one could claim them. The parents are probably also dead.

and yes, I agree, the dead babies are worse.

The odd thing is, that the dead babiesa and soccer fields of dead bodies are considered "socially acceptable" - at least by the (marjority) of people who still consider the war to be what we should be doing (unfortunatly, even Kerry does not advocate our getting out).

While what happens in prisons is not "socially acceptable" because we should not treat LIVING people like that. (I guess dead people cannot be treated badly, either - thus the outrage over the burned contractors).

It makes no sense.

Everybody's worried about what the Arab world will think of us because of these pictures.

Everybody's screaming "The war's over! The arabs won't support us at all now!"

Bush is on TV talking to the Arabs, basically apologizing.

What the FUCK do they think the Arab world thinks about the pictures of the DEAD BABIES????!!!!!

It's so goddamn stupid I could just throttle somebody.

Think, where else have you heard about dead babies in a political setting?

But as a mom myself, the picture that's 'gotten to me' the most, in this whole war, is one I saw just yesterday. It is a soldier handing a 'baby' back to someone, only the baby no longer has a head. It makes me physically ill to look at, but it's like a car accident; I had to look anyway. I cannot imagine what we are doing to this entire country, and our own military, psychologically. Here is a link to the pic I am talking about...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x48676

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They level of dehumanization that happens in a "war". We are accomplishing nothing but further deaths and alienation of ourselves from the world. What's the f*cking point??? (Besides Haliburton's stock prices, that is?) :nuke:

gets the blood-thirsty die-hard pro-Bush morans all giggly and proud, and reinforces their love of all things Bush.

and besides, aangering the Arab World is not something the neocons want to avoid... if anything, they want to stoke it. Under cover of chaos is how they do their deeds...

which is why they need to be shown.

If we're all gonna pay our tax dollars to fund killing people, we need to know who we're killing.

I want to know exactly who my tax dollars are killing, and I want accountability for it.

"show us where the bombs land!"

It's all very intentional.

after they are born. Unless they are helping stuff ballots or create a phony astroturf campaign.

And little brown babies like Iraqis? Not even sympathetic to them when they're in Momma's Womb.

Also, for whatever reason, the torture story got more legs than any war destruction story. That keeps the pics out there.

Because dead babies are unfortunate, but unavoidable, in war. While naked Iraqis are being intentionally tortured.

People are in total denial or use the tired "there have always been civilian casualties in time of war" as anodyne for atrocity. Which is what we are committing when we bomb civilian neighborhoods. Atrocity. The media is complicit in only talking about "insurgent" casualties - not infants blown apart.

I have argued this with supporters of the war since day 1: what level of denial does it take to expect a population to welcome you as "liberator" when you have just dropped bombs that killed their children? When children are screaming from burns inflicted by your "surgical strikes."

It is insane, has been insane from the start. May the God I don't believe in help us if we are ever truly called to account.

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