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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:37 PM
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Rumsfeld Hearing 5/6/04 Thread 6
here's thread 1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&...

Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1548432&mesg_id=1548432&page=

thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1548776&mesg_id=1548776

thread 4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1548969&mesg_id=1548969

thread 5

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1549172
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:39 PM
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1. Private Contractors under investigation for abuse
I wonder how many Iraqis were tortured who were not part of any resistance and just got caught up in sweeps of neighborhoods?
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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10. Many innocent have been prisoned.
Wonder why nobody brings that up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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Rumsfeld will not resign just because people
make a political issue of it.

My blood pressure is so high right now.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:40 PM
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2. Why the fuck every time they ask a ? about contractors does it have to
go into the record?? Is Warner covering for the contractors...the CIA?
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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6. because the mercenaries are part of the problem...
the privatization of the military....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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17. Yes, I know what I sent yesterday to Akaka
a guardian story with the contractors, that is where he was going...

Damn Warmer, I wonder if he is a peronal investor in CACI or TITAN
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:40 PM
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3. Lindsey Graham: Have you seen the video, Mr. Secretary?
No, no, no. Rummy hasn't read the report, hasn't seen the video.

Sen. Graham then said, "I want to prepare the public, because the worst is yet to come."

Jesus.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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13. Lindsey Graham said that?
Yikes. I can't even imagine what's coming. Video footage of physical torture?

-MR
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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Lindsey has either seen the video, or has talked to someone who has.
He knows. He knows that the shit hasn't even begun to hit the fan yet.

Thank you for preparing us, Sen. Graham. You're more of a Democrat than Holy Joe is, that's for sure.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:40 PM
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4. PICTURES - "The worst is yet to come!"
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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We'd heard this before...........
things are going downhill quick.
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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30. I don't want to see anymore
I am sick from all of this. Stop the world, I want to get off.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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He was referring to the video, in my opinion.
Jesus. Has Sen. Graham seen the video? Has he spoken to someone who has? Methinks YES.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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5. Rummy gets so befuddled. He hasn't seen the video.
Lindsey is a mixed bag so far.

"He wants it done right"

I THINK LINDSEY IS GOING TO HELP HERE!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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7. Gfraham is demanding that not only the PfC pay for this
he is now demanding command accountability, look at General Smith's face... he knows he is in trouble... I can almost see a General Court Martial at that level...
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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8. OMG! I'm agreeing with Lindsay Graham!
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM by Richardo
"If only the noncoms are prosecuted, that would suck." (OK that's a paraphrase)
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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58. very good point
There will be an awful lot of reservists getting righteously pissed off if no officers or no contractors get nailed on this. Rummy knows that, too.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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9. Sen. Graham: "I want to prepare the public. The worst is yet to come."
He's referring to the video. Holy crap.

I've never liked Graham, but damn if he isn't doing a good job up there.

"Have you seen the photos? Have you seen the video? Did it dawn on you when you saw the photos, what was about to happen?"
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:41 PM
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11. Lindsay Graham up, with Boy Scout haircut.
Not cutting slack, yet.
Want's to see higher up than privates and sargeants prosecuted.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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15. This administration is digusting
UNREAL their secrecy
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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24. Dude, LINDSEY IS HOT.
I LIKE THIS MOTHERFUCKER, AT THIS MOMENT, VERY MUCH

capitals are because he is being tight and aggressive and pissed
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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12. Lt Smith saw the photos in March
so why hasn't anyone else looked at them?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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19. Gen Myers his focus of the photos was on the troops in Iraq
NOT on the ABUSE or Torture??
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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25. hear no evil see no evil?
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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31. Meyers is full of shit...
He said he was concerned the photos would put our troops in harms way...bullshit!! This was a coverup!!!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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14. Rummy blasts leak of Photos "Illegal leak of photos to the press"
only illegal in a dictatorship Bastard :grr:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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23. Of course, torture is bad, the public knowing about it is worse
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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16. Lindsey is ALL BUSINESS. FAST QUESTIONS. ON TARGET.
we're going to get some dates here.
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r_u_stuck2 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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21. He's got his lawyer hat on.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:45 PM
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33. And, he's a damned good lawyer. Excellent, excellent questioning.
He asks simple questions, and moves right down the line to be sure he addresses everyone at that desk.

I'm impresssed.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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He is a good questioner, far better than most Senators
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Erratic Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:42 PM
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18. Gen. Smith
General Smith looks scared. Is that the face of guilt?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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27. No is the sudden realization that HE may
face a general court martial.... and Myers is starting to look scared too
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Aries Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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49. I would prefer a military tribunal
with Bush and Cheney as his co-defendants.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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79. Unfortunately we have a Constitution that requires civilian control....
over the military. We cannot permit the military to try themselves in situations such as these. They answer to us - through our representatives. That is the law.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:52 PM
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Oh the IMT comes to mind
but, he may face a General Court Martial, but those hgher than him, we are running out of Generals, in fact he may have to face the International Court...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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20. Lot of enlisted in South Carolina who would also be angry if only enlisted
were prosecuted

Graham....dang! You go boy!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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32. Bingo! Lots of military in his state.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM
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22. They didn't bother to tell the Congress about the abuse back in Jan or Feb
n/t
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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26. oh boy, myers just fucked up bad
lindsey is going fast.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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42. Myers was in coverup mode and he admits it n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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47. Details? I'm counting on you folks...
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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28. Graham still a Lt. Col. in USAF Reserves.
This must have touched a nerve in him.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:44 PM
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29. So, they KNEW about the photos in January!
And they never wanted to see them even though they were described to them????? Are they kidding?????? Obviously bush knew about this . . .

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:45 PM
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34. GO GRAHAM!!!
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
Take no prisoners!!!

on edit - mistook him for Lindsey 9just turned it on streaming CSPAN)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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39. Articles of Impeachment for Rummy?!?
Wooooo!
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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60. I have already written both of my Senators...........
requesting them to ask for Rumsfeld's resignation. A wiser man than me said that "the fish rots from the head first." Folks, meet the fish-head.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:45 PM
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35. Graham: "I'll be disappointed of we only charge privates
and sargeants."

Right on.

OMG, I like a Republican. Eeeewwwwww.
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r_u_stuck2 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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41. Someday he will be a Presidential candidate
He is aware of this and is conducting himself accordingly.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:45 PM
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36. To Rummy: "what do you say to people calling for your resignation?"
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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43. Long long pauses...in resignation answer...me thinks it's in the works
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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50. If I was not effective I'd resign in a minute
would anybody care to deliver the memo: He is no longer effective

He has not been for months, but that is another matter.

People are making political statements

Rummy may you rot in the tenth circle of hell
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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62. Effectiveness to be determined by Congress, People, or PNAC?
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:45 PM
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37. Lindsey just told him that people are writing articles of impeachment
against Rummy.

Lindsey is tight. He is pissed.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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45. Won't resign
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM by PaDUer
people trying to make POLITICAL ISSUE out of it!!! There, he said it..lolol...scumbag!
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM
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70. I will call it here and now
Rummy will begin to rapidly have health issues and will resign within 3 months--anyone want to start a pool
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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53. for now
but lindsey won'r break ranks with bushco. and that includes rummy.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:45 PM
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38. Is Graham the only lawyer?
I know he was a military lawyer. He's the only one that knows how to ask questions?
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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40. Graham: why didn't you guys give us a heads-up so we could spin it?
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM by Postman
the repubs are upset they couldn't control the situation due to this administrations secrecy.

The underlining message here is that -- We in the Congress will cover your ass in doing illegal things, but we can't do that if you guys keep EVERYTHING secret...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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Rummy: If I felt I could not be effective, I'd resign in a minute!
Well, then, what the fuck are you waiting for, Donnie??
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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Rummy sez Photos have been DOCTORED to suit the public's taste!!!
What in the fuck??
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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44. You know who we really need asking questions here?
Samuel L. Jackson.

I rest my case.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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46. Lindsay should know about impeachment ... since he led the charge on a BJ
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:46 PM
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48. Rumbutt knows shit...Graham...a surprise
can't answer any direct question. Doesn't know who's in charge of the Contractors. Franks is answering all his questions.

Graham up: Saying more photos coming and worse to come. General Smith, when did you see the photos...when did you see the photos? Graham being stuff...that's a new one. Myers didn't want the photos on ABC but had not seen them. Myers said, many people in the Pentagon knew about the photos but he had not seen the photos. They felt that maybe the photos would not be pubished...Karma..Karma.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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51. Rummy claims photos were doctored . . .
Right!!
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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61. "to fit certain people's taste"!
what the heck...then claims he only saw the undoctored real photos last night...right. He is a big fat liar! He needs to resign, if he was a man he would..
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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52. I never, NEVER thought I would be proud to have Lindsey Graham
as a senator from my state. My head is spinning.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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55. Now THAT is non-partisan!
Good man! (today) :)
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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75. It's going to take a lot more to make up for what he did to Clinton
For me ... but that's just me....
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM
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54. LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF!!!!!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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57. Last night, my ass. He's just another Lying Liar.
:mad:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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59. Followed by 5 minutes of backpedaling...
Followed by "January 16th with everyone else"
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:48 PM
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56. when did you tell the president?
Rummy: I Don't know
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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77. the more appropriate question
would have been...When did you tell the VICE-president.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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63. Q: When did you first tell the President? A: I don't know.
Rummy: We meet with the president all the time. I just don't recall.

:mad:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM
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"What did you say?" "I'm not telling."
:grr:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM
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68. Myers: President knew in late JANUARY or early FEBRUARY
Folks, the President has officially been thrown under the bus.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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64. What did the president say when he was informed?
rummy won't say...falling on the sword big time.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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76. How does the president want to be informed of matter like this?
answer....pretty much the non-answer is bush* doesn't want to know.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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65. "I don't keep notes about what I do" . . .
. . . Rummy is a liar.

These guys aren't going to be able to shield the pretzeldent from the fact that he knew back in January.

TYY
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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66. He's covering for *
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM
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67. Rumsfeld "if there was a failure it was me"
Quote of the Day ....Sound Bite
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM
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69. A personal failure since I failed to keep this
covered up... Lord this man makes me sick


IMT again comes to mind

He knows he is fucked up folks, he knows it
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM
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71. WHEN DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW??????
WHEN???????
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM
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72. 1 dimensional???????????
He's fucking insane!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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73. CRUMBLE TIME!!!!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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74. Well, golly, gee, Senator.."what do we owe him?" (a president)
in regards to knowledge/information "so he can do his job?"
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:51 PM
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78. This is bullshit
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:56 PM by No2W2004
The only thing Rummy is upset or sorry about is that those damn pictures got out. He didn't give a damn about the report in Jan. It became a problem when the pictures were gonna be out.

EDIT sp
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:52 PM
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80. You pick and choose shit that isn't scandolous and embarasing - DICK!
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:52 PM
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81. What is Dole going to do? JOE LIEBERMAN WAS THE WORST EVER
i think dole may ask some real questions. maybe.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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86. Agter that speech straight from FAUX News, Don't think so
unless she is preparing a trap
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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90. Don't count on it
She is making a pro Iraq war speech.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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92. Nope. Bush/Cheney campaign ad.
bla bla bla
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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95. Dole is REVOLTING. Fuck her. She is saying we freed 50 million people
gawd. ha ha ha ha. i can only laugh at her.

unless she turns it on quick, she is shit. nothing done with her 5 minutes. terra!
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:52 PM
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82. OK, so let me get this straight. According to Rummy,
the fact that the abuses were taking place wasn't a problem.

The fact that there was VISUAL PROOF that the abuses were taking place is a HUGE problem.

I mean if you listen to him that's what's obvious. He's only upset or agitated when he talks about the fact that he didn't realize there were pictures out there. The fact that this was goign to be a huge PR problem is the ONLY THING HE CARES ABOUT.

He is PURE EVIL.

:argh:

The Plaid Adder
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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94. Yup....
He's more upset that they got caught. I've always got the feeling that Rummy could give two-shits about the hearts and minds of the Iraqis (and the Americans too).
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:52 PM
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83. Rummy's taking a pass: I don't remember, I don't know, I was too busy
to know.

Just like Nurnburg.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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84. Rumsfeld really thinks the problem is that the photographs were
leaked. It hasn't hit him yet, and may never, that the problem is the abuse. He is really stuck on how this would not be an issue but for the public release, which makes him one sick person. Isn't this kind of justification an indicator of a psychopath?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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85. Rummy's taking a pass: I don't remember, I don't know, I was too busy
to know.

Just like Nurnburg.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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87. WTF is Dole doing?
Grandstanding, she is making me sick.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM
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Dole gets an :"A" for her essay
she must have stayed up all night writing this one...
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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"Oh my. There are just soooooooooooo many things . . .
. . . thousands of things. I don't take notes on what I do." We just don't know what we should tell the pretzeldent.

For gawds sake. If this didn't rate as something to tell his pretzeldentness . . . what the hell would? BTW, I don't believe they didn't tell him. They did. Rummy's just trying to pretend that there is a chance that he didn't tell him. After all, he doesn't take notes.

TYY
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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88. Holy Moly I thought for a moment that I was watching Tammy Fay Baker
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM by 0007
Liz Dole is a real shill for the party
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM
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89. Libby Dole reads an essay. Iraq is in great shape!
Thanks Libby! <sarcasm>
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM
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98. "Hearts and Minds"
They never go off their fucking script, do they? Goosestepping Busheviks.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM
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100. I still am boggled that
she beat Erskine Bowles. Despite the way he kicked her ass in debates and made her look clueless most of time
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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91. Dole: the actions of a few don't reflect an evil in the rest of us..
Edited on Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM by Postman
(paraphrase)

couldn't the same thing be said about the 911 hijackers?

Yet the US invades Iraq with innocents killed, based on lies, because of the actions of a few.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM
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101. ooooooooh!!! You're applying logic and reason!!!
Bad Postman, Bad Postman!!!
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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93. Liddy Dole ... pontificating .... Yawn ..... using up most of her time
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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96. DOLE _ LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES!!!!!!!!
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:54 PM
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97. Elizabeth Dole sucks.
She is going to spend her 6 minutes reminding everyone about the wonderful military leadership! LOL!

I guess she hasn't realized that it is a fucked up mess over there because of the leadership.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM
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99. please continue in thread 7 here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1549701
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:55 PM
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102. why can't Rummy say reparations? legalese...?
POS scumbag.
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