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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:48 PM
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French Cryptologist Broke 8/6 PDB -- translation needed!!
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3244,36-364008,0.html

French cryptologists have revealed one of the blacked-out words in the 8-6-01 PDB. We need a translation of this story. Anyone?

Supposedly, they discovered the word "Egyptian" blacked out.

Please, DU-ers.....translate?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:52 PM
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1. I'll pm a DUer who speaks French
:hi:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:46 PM
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10. Working on it. People got the gist but will be back in a few
with a finished product.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:55 PM
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2. Mods..I will edit if this breaks copyright rules
Edited on Sun May-09-04 09:07 PM by wuushew
A passage covered with black ink in a document recently diffused by the White House was reconstituted. The method could be applied to considerable déclassifiées files. It "was bored" in front of television, the weekend of Easter, "when the memo of the CIA with George Bush was diffused", remembers David Naccache, specialist in the coding of the data of the French company Gemplus. "I telephoned at once Claire Whelan, a coed of Dublin City University, from which I direct the thesis, to propose to him to attack the caviardés passages", it tells. Mission accomplished, or almost.

The "memo" in question, addressed on August 6, 2001 by the CIA to president Bush and entitled "Ben Laden determined to strike in the USA", had been just déclassifié by the White House. This one wanted to prove that the precision of the warnings of the services of information was not sufficient to make it possible to the president to prevent the attacks of September 11. But five passages specifying the sources of the collected information had been covered with black ink. For the cryptologist David Naccache, these illegible fragments were as many red rags. The result of its efforts - "conduits on a purely deprived basis", specifies it, concerned not to imply its employer in his initiative - was presented Tuesday May 4 at the time of the conference Eurocrypt 2004 which joined together until May 6 with Interlaken, in Switzerland, the gratin of world cryptography. "the demonstration was extremely impressive", judge Jean-Jacques Quisquater (university of Leuwen-the-New), specialist in the field, which greets this company of "reverse engineering of censured document".

David Naccache and his pupil indeed succeeded in discovering one of the censured words. The term "Egyptian" seems the only possible one to them. They want to polish their method before returning their verdict on a longer passage, in order not to discredit it. And they straightforwardly threw sponge for a completely isolated word, for lack of sufficient indices.

Technology employed does not have, at first sight, anything revolutionist. The two researchers initially "rectified" the text, deformed at the time of its digitalization - the slope was only of 0,52°. They then used a software of character recognition to determine the police force of the text which fixes the number of signs per unit of length.

The simple recourse to an English dictionary then makes it possible to draw up a list of possible words. "1 530 corresponded", indicates David Naccache. But the article "year" preceding the word mystery implied that this one necessarily started with a vowel, which made it possible to bring back the list to 346 words. In French, an index provided by articles like "one" or "one", in the same way, would have made it possible to tighten research. The selection was also facilitated by the fact that the bill of character, Arial, is "proportional", i.e. the "hunting" of the letters varies.

The space occupied by an I differs from that taken by W, which can give additional indices, compared to the police forces known as "monospace", like the Mail, often used, where all the letters are worth. "Among" the surviving "words, five or six could make direction, but only Egyptian corresponded to the context", indicates the cryptologist. This last stage raises more human intelligence than of the geometry of the text. To choose among Ukrainian, univited, unofficial, incursive, Egyptian, indebted and Ugandan, the two researchers were based on their good direction, Uganda and the Ukraine seeming too far away from the theatre of the operations to be retained, for example. No doubt the analysis of the "memo" of the CIA reveals only one "an open secret", recognizes David Naccache. But the method systematizes research.

In another "memo", it revealed that civil helicopters militarized by the Iraqis had been bought in Korea South And nothing is opposed to the automated application of this technique to the whole of the déclassifiés documents, in which it could put at the day "of the isolated words, even of the groups of two or three words". Opinion with the critics...
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schrodinger_I Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:56 PM
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3. Here is an electronic translation
   


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It "s'ennuyait" in front of television, the weekend of Easter, "lorsque the memo of the CIA with George Bush was diffusé", remembers David Naccache, specialist in the coding of the data of the French company Gemplus. "J'ai telephoned at once with Claire Whelan, a coed of Dublin City University, from which I direct the thesis, to propose s'attaquer with the passages caviardés" to him;, tell it. Mission accomplished, or almost. The "mémo" in question, addressed on August 6, 2001 by the CIA to president Bush and entitled "Ben Laden given to strike in USA", d'être came déclassifié by the White House. This one wanted to prove that the precision of the warnings of the services of information did not n'était sufficient to allow to the president d'empêcher the attacks of September 11. But five passages specifying the sources of the collected information had been covered d'encre black. For the cryptologist David Naccache, these illegible fragments were as many red rags. The result of its efforts - "conduits with title privé", specify it, concerned not to imply its employer in his initiative - was presented Tuesday May 4 at the time of the conference Eurocrypt 2004 which joined together jusqu'au May 6 with Interlaken, in Switzerland, the gratin of world cryptography. "La demonstration was strong impressionnante", judge Jean-Jacques Quisquater (university of Leuwen-the-New), specialist in the field, which greets this company of "reverse engineering of document censuré". David Naccache and his pupil indeed succeeded in discovering l'un censured words. The "Egyptian" term; their seems the only possible one. They want to polish their method before returning their verdict on a longer passage, in order not to discredit it. And they straightforwardly threw l'éponge for a word completely isolated, fault d'indices sufficient. Technology employed n'a, at first sight, nothing revolutionist. The two researchers have d'abord "redressé" the text, deformed at the time of its digitalization - l'inclinaison n'était that of 0,52°. They then used a software of character recognition to determine the police force of the text which fixes the number of signs per unit of length. The simple recourse to a dictionary d'anglais then allows to d'établir a list of possible words. "1 530 correspondaient", indicate David Naccache. But l'article "an" preceding the word mystery implied that this one necessarily started with a vowel, which made it possible to bring back the list to 346 words. In French, an index provided by articles like "un" or "une" , in the same way, would have allowed to tighten research. The selection was also facilitated by the fact that the l'Arial, bill of character, is "proportionnelle", c'est-with-statement that the "chasse" letters varies. L'espace occupied by an I differs from that taken by W, which can give additional indices, compared to the police forces known as "monospace", like the Mail, often used, where all the letters are worth. "Parmi the words "survivants", five or six could make direction, but only Egyptian corresponded to the contexte", indicate the cryptologist. This last stage raises more human l'intelligence than of the geometry of the text. To choose among Ukrainian, univited, unofficial, incursive, Egyptian, indebted and Ugandan, the two researchers rested on their good direction, l'Ouganda and l'Ukraine seeming too far away from the theatre of the operations to be retained, for example. Undoubtedly l'analyse of the "mémo" the CIA does not reveal it qu'un "secret polichinelle", David Naccache Recognizes. But the method systematizes research. In another "mémo", it revealed that civil helicopters militarized by the Iraqis had been bought in Korea South And nothing s'oppose with automated l application of this technique with l'ensemble of the déclassifiés documents, in which it could put at the day "des isolated words, even of the groups of two or three mots". Opinion with the critics... Herve Morin • ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN L'EDITION OF THE 08.05.04







   




 


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macman52402 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:58 PM
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4. translated
Edited on Sun May-09-04 09:01 PM by macman52402
you can use the google translator.

http://www.google.com/language_tools
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:00 PM
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7. Wow....
...the Google translator blows Altavista out of the water....
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:03 PM
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8. You're not kidding!
Edited on Sun May-09-04 09:03 PM by wuushew
Long live google
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:33 PM
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15. www.dictionary.com has a good one, too
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:17 PM
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14. Hi macman52402!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:58 PM
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5. pretty much confirms what has been
never verified..the egyptians warned the whitehouse that there would an attack on the united states..i can read enough french to get the ideas..
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:59 PM
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6. process of elimination based on font widths and such
the one word they think they nailed is preceded by the word "an", therefore it must begin with a vowel. this narrowed down the possible words that would fit, given the font widths, in the blacked-out space. "egyptian" is the only remaining word that made any sense in the context.

they have other clues, but don't want to say more without refining their methods.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:24 PM
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9. triplicate - self delete
Edited on Sun May-09-04 09:32 PM by doni_georgia
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:54 PM
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11. Translation
Edited on Sun May-09-04 10:31 PM by Tinoire
A passage covered with black ink in a document recently diffused by the White House has been reconstituted. The method could be applied to many daclassified files.

David Naccache, a data coding specialist for the French company Gemplus, recalls that he was "bored" in front of the TV on Easter weekend of Easter, "when CIA's memo to George Bush was diffused". "I immediately telephoned Claire Whelan, a student at Dublin City University, whose thesis I'm directing, to propose to him to tackle the obscured passages". Mission accomplished, or almost.

The "memo" in question, addressed on August 6, 2001 by the CIA to president Bush and entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in the USA", had just been declassified by the White House. It (he White House) was trying to prove that the intelligence services had not given them specific warnings sufficient enough to make it possible for the president to prevent the attacks of September 11. But five passages specifying the sources of the collected information had been blacked out.

For the cryptologist David Naccache, each of these illegible fragment was a red flag. The result of his efforts - "conducted on a purely free-lance basis", he specified because he didn't want his employer implicated - was presented Tuesday May 4 at the Eurocrypt 2004 conference which lasted until May 6 in Interlaken, Switzerland, to the cream of the crop (who's who) of world cryptography. "The demonstration (presentation) was extremely impressive", in the judgement of Jean-Jacques Quisquater (University of Leuwen-the-New), specialist in the field, impressed by this feat of "reverse engineering of the censured document".

David Naccache and his pupil indeed succeeded in discovering one of the censured words. The term "Egyptian" seems to be the only possible one to them. They want to polish their method before rendering their verdict on a longer passage, in order to not discredit their method. One of the censored words was totally isolated so they simply gave up (threw in the sponge) on that one for lack of sufficient clues.

At first glance, there's nothing revolutionary about the technology they used. The two researchers initially "straighted out" the text which had been deformed at the time of its digitalization - the slope was only of 0,52°. They then used a character recognition software to determine the format the font of the text which fixes the number of marks(?) per unit of length. Simply consulting an English dictionary then makes it possible to draw up a list of possible words. "1,530 corresponded", indicates David Naccache.

But the grammatical article "the" right before the mystery word implied that this mystery word had to start with a vowel, which made it possible to condense the list to 346 words. (Had this been written) In French, the grammatical articles like "un (masculine singular for the article 'a')" or "une (feminine singular for 'a')" would have made it possible to narrow things down even more. The selection was also facilitated by the fact that the font Arial is "proportional", i.e. the "width" of the characters varies. The space occupied by an I differs from that taken by W; this can give additional clues, when compared to the font "monospace", in which like in the commonly used "Courrier", the width of the characters are all equal.

"Of the remaining 'words', five or six could make sense, but only Egyptian corresponded to the context", indicates the cryptologist. This last stage relies more on human intelligence than of the geometry of the text. To choose between the words Ukrainian, univited, unofficial, incursive, Egyptian, indebted and Ugandan, the two researchers relied on their common sense. Uganda and the Ukraine, for example, seem too far away from the theatre of the operations to be retained.

No doubt the analysis of the CIA's "memo" reveals only "a Punchinello secret", recognizes David Naccache. But the method systematizes the research. In another "memo", this method revealed that civil helicopters militarized by the Iraqis had been purchased from South Korea. And nothing stands in the way of automating this method to go through other declassified documents to reveal "isolated words, much less groups of two or three words".

Warning to the censors...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 11:40 AM
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12. thanks so much...
...this is an important story.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 12:18 PM
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13. Wow, this is a result we wouldn't expect, eh?
After all, who'd believe that in the sentence

"An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told an xxxxxxxx service at the same time that Bin Ladin was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike."

the xxx's would say Egyptian? Hold the front page!

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/technology/10crypto.html?ex=1084766400&en=4e3afd115cd99745&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

Actually, the other bit they think they've worked out is more interesting:

The researchers, David Naccache, the director of an information security lab for Gemplus S.A., a Luxembourg-based maker of banking and security cards, and Claire Whelan, a computer science graduate student at Dublin City University in Ireland, also applied the technique to a confidential Defense Department memorandum on Iraqi military use of Hughes helicopters.

They said that although the name of a country had been blacked out in that memorandum, their software showed that it was highly likely the document named South Korea as having helped the Iraqis.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:37 PM
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16. Page numbers too?
Has anyone cracked the deleted page numbers so we can determine how may pages were left out?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-04 01:45 PM
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17. I distinclty remember Eric Margolis on CNN shortly after 9/11 say that
OBL wasn't the organizer for 9/11. He described OBL as the franchiser in chief of Al Qaeda. He said that 9/11 was almost definitely organized and run out of Egypt.


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